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In post 1621, Menalque wrote:Dragon doesn’t get to choose the guillotine today because we know the TD isn’t in the group of 3

So this is just a normal day

yes but we still have to agree on the investigation shipping stuff

In post 1623, Menalque wrote:Man datisi you’d better not be scum here bc I’m gonna look dumb as fuck if you are

solid pagetop

In post 1618, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 1612, Titus wrote:You're not hunting either. You're deflecting notscience onto a weaker town.

You're calling Datisi "weaker town" from my POV it sounds like you don't entirely TR them either.

No. I do TR them. Weaker town refers to their skill and standing in the thread. I generally am weakest day 1.

I basically said you're bullying town.

It's not bullying, they've got an rabid attack dog hounding me every step of the way. He's biting me in the legs right now.

In post 1596, Titus wrote:maxwell can you talk to me about your moment read? EE plus notscience screams s v s. EE basically is saying if you don't get this heat off, he must bus. They aren't sorting each other. Why would EE ever vote a townread in this setup? For giving up?

Was a guess based on yesterday but I don't really like anything notscience has been doing today. I'd expect him to at least be trying to offer something useful but he looks like caught scum saying as little as possible to try to minimize spew. Maybe I'm wrong. Consider my vote spiritually flipped to notscience. I don't think we need to sweat today's execution too hard. The one thing I will stress is that NK15 absolutely gets copped on a notscience scumflip.

In post 1625, Datisi wrote:yes but we still have to agree on the investigation shipping stuff

I don’t care that much about this and am kind of okay with him leading on it

I don’t think we should invest more than 5 people probably though

I want a norwee invest tonight if notscience flips scum

In post 1630, Menalque wrote:I don’t think we should invest more than 5 people probably though

All game, to be clear

In post 1628, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It's not bullying, they've got an rabid attack dog hounding me every step of the way. He's biting me in the legs right now.

Arf arf! Grrrrr

In post 1584, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think people are afraid to push Datisi purely because Mena vouches for them.

Afraid of what? Executing town?

Yeah thanks, you're real insightful SS.

In post 1549, Datisi wrote:can you talk more about this? what is your read on me?

Moment is not towny enough to deserve the 1%, mostly. Moment's whiteknighting equity is massive if NK is town.

I don't really have a read on you but I'm very comfortable trusting Menalque's.

In post 1634, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah thanks, you're real insightful SS.

It was a genuine question. What exactly do you think people are afraid of?

I think that an invest on (norwee, nk15) would be good for today



If notty flips town then the next night (N3) we invest just one of (datisi, moment) to work out which one is scum

In post 1636, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1634, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah thanks, you're real insightful SS.

It was a genuine question. What exactly do you think people are afraid of?

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In post 1636, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1634, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah thanks, you're real insightful SS.

It was a genuine question. What exactly do you think people are afraid of?

Woof! Woof woof! Grrrrrrowl!

Oh shit I made too many posts, I’m doing what I did in JK9++ and giving myself a 24 hour timeout to let people get back into the game, my bad

In post 1636, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1634, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah thanks, you're real insightful SS.

It was a genuine question. What exactly do you think people are afraid of?

No but seriously, this is a dumb question. I don't think it's a big secret that many people here look up to Mena and think's his reads must be accurate if he states them with strong certainty. It would be very dumb and risky for scum to go against him here.

Town would want to believe he is right because of his strong presence.

In post 1641, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It would be very dumb and risky for scum to go against him here.

Oh I see, you think that SCUM are afraid of him, whereas town just respect him.

That makes sense, and seems accurate. Wouldn't that mean that Datisi's town, though? Since it's not likely that scum would refrain from bussing their partner because they were afraid of Menalque-- they would either just capitalize on the opportunity to keep Datisi alive, or they would defy Menalque to harm his credibility when Datisi flips scum.

In post 1643, Something_Smart wrote:they would either just capitalize on the opportunity to keep Datisi alive

Well yeah, that's what i'm thinking is the most likely event if Datisi is scum here.

So how does being afraid factor into it then?

From my POV it’s quite telling how easily NS got wagoned. Me being the only one to defend NS shows that scum are content with the lynch today. So either NS is town or scum are hard bussing him. Now tell me which you guys think is most likely.

Mena JUST said this setup is one where it’s anti-wincon for scum to buss btw.

In post 1646, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So either NS is town or scum are hard bussing him.

is this not a false dichotomy? i'd imagine the low ratio of town:scum (both in game total and outside the inspection pool) would make it more difficult for scum to outright control the gamestate. plus, the day's still young.

In post 1646, NorwegianboyEE wrote:From my POV it’s quite telling how easily NS got wagoned. Me being the only one to defend NS shows that scum are content with the lynch today. So either NS is town or scum are hard bussing him. Now tell me which you guys think is most likely.

Neither you nor Alisae seem to want notscience lynched, so there's at least two people. I'd also add NK15 and maxwell, but we're getting a bit away from the point.

Even if we grant that this argument is sound from your perspective, why should it be convincing to anyone who doesn't already townread you?