Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:54 pm
Asking you for your best reason to elim me isn't deflection. It's basic accountability.In post 1623, Albert B. Rampage wrote:oh, deflection, is it? I didn't see that coming.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:55 pm
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:56 pm
It's almost comical how bad this push on me is :3
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:57 pm
When your "townreads" do new things that appear suspicious, I expect you to comment on it or think to yourself, hey maybe I was wrong about someone I thought was completely town. It doesn't make sense you hardtownread penguin and cakez and suspect me johnny and bingle. Your play is very safe. Consistent and safe, so much so that it's not scumhunting to me.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:59 pm
In post 1628, Albert B. Rampage wrote:When your "townreads" do new things that appear suspicious, I expect you to comment on it or think to yourself, hey maybe I was wrong about someone I thought was completely town. It doesn't make sense you hardtownread penguin and cakez and suspect me johnny and bingle. Your play is very safe. Consistent and safe, so much so that it's not scumhunting to me.
So your best reason for wanting me Elim'd is because you think I'm too logically consistent?
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:00 pm
also notice how bingle is a townread here?In post 1617, Fun and Games wrote:from a full week ago, ty ?In post 956, Fun and Games wrote:Wait why is everyone afraid of us?
I'll do one too!
Town: penguin, gamma, cmod
Slightly lesser town: iks, nos, bingle, sircakez
Idk: ydrasse, pine
Scummy: abr, johnny
~ skitter
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~ skitter
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:01 pm
like you're literally complaining that i haven't done things that i've very loudly done so like ...In post 1628, Albert B. Rampage wrote:When your "townreads" do new things that appear suspicious, I expect you to comment on it or think to yourself, hey maybe I was wrong about someone I thought was completely town. It doesn't make sense you hardtownread penguin and cakez and suspect me johnny and bingle. Your play is very safe. Consistent and safe, so much so that it's not scumhunting to me.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:01 pm
There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:03 pm
Our reads have evolved though. You can see bingle used to be lesser town on our readlist and now we are pushing for him being elim'd.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:03 pm
mixed met·a·phorIn post 1632, Albert B. Rampage wrote:There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.
/ˈˌmiks(t) ˈmedəfər/
noun
noun: mixed metaphor; plural noun: mixed metaphors
a combination of two or more incompatible metaphors, which produces a ridiculous effect (e.g., this tower of strength will forge ahead ).
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:04 pm
Alright, there's no scenario where I'm unvoting you so let's just get on with it. Go get people to defend you and we'll see where the chips fall.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:06 pm
V OTECOUNT 2.042 | ||||||
P LAYER N AME | C URRENT V OTES | S TRENGTH | S PEED | K NOWLEDGE | P LAYER N AME | |
Gamma Emerald | None | EL-7 | 3 | 2 | 4 | Gamma Emerald |
SirCakez | None | EL-7 | 2 | 3 | 3 | SirCakez |
CreativeMod1 | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | CreativeMod1 |
Albert B. Rampage | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Albert B. Rampage |
Chara | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 4 | Chara |
Bingle | PenguinPower, SirCakez, Fun and Games, Nosferatu | EL-3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Bingle |
Nosferatu | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 4 | Nosferatu |
I Keep Siteflaking | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | I Keep Siteflaking |
PenguinPower | Bingle | EL-6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | PenguinPower |
Fun and Games | Albert B. Rampage, Noraa, CreativeMod1, JohnnyFarrar, Gamma Emerald | EL-2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Fun and Games |
Noraa | I Keep Siteflaking | EL-6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Noraa |
JohnnyFarrar | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | JohnnyFarrar |
Not Voting | Chara | |||||
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-14 12:10:00) | ||||||
Notes: Currently searching for a replacement for Chara. pagetops: Lilith 29 | penguin 15 | ABR 5 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | gamma 2 | gb 1 | fun & games 2 | nosferatu 2 | bingle 1 | iks 1 | cakez 1 | noraa 1 | ||||||
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:07 pm
The context I'm referring to is cakez and penguin, not bingle.In post 1633, Fun and Games wrote:Our reads have evolved though. You can see bingle used to be lesser town on our readlist and now we are pushing for him being elim'd.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:07 pm
It's not really a pro-town mindframe to break off engagement when you can't come up with a single good reason for pushing an elim. Looks shady af.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:08 pm
yeah I joined different wagons because I wanted something to go through so we could progressIn post 1609, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Put yourself in my chair. You were part of the people today who didn't want to lead bandwagons or mix things up, contributing to the staleness you criticized. For the past 2 weeks, all you did was pile onto people who were being voted already and had high odds of being lynched. And now you come out of the shadows to defend F&G who you never townread, and act more aggressively than your ordinary meta to get your way, and this is without even following who's voting who. Then you get a pass from F&G after all this. I'm trying to weigh the contradictions. Walk me through what you're trying to achieve here.
now a wagon is finally moving on one person who I am not interesting in elimming (when there are several others I would) so ofc I'm gonna push back
I also don't see how this is different from "my nomral meta"
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:09 pm
I should have said "take it with a grain of salt or leave the kitchen" to get the triple double.In post 1634, Nosferatu wrote:mixed met·a·phorIn post 1632, Albert B. Rampage wrote:There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.
/ˈˌmiks(t) ˈmedəfər/
noun
noun: mixed metaphor; plural noun: mixed metaphors
a combination of two or more incompatible metaphors, which produces a ridiculous effect (e.g., this tower of strength will forge ahead ).
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:09 pm
well you were talking about all of our reads, now you're talking about specifically the reads that did not change.In post 1637, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The context I'm referring to is cakez and penguin, not bingle.
Congrats ABR, you are correct - we have people on our readlsist that did not change. You see our readslist is based on actual actions and thought and we don't randomly shuffle people around for fun
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:10 pm
i was trying to get the game moving to avoid a NL and picked three people I thought were global scumreadsIn post 1612, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I've never ever seen cakez say "hey you can't vote for w, your options are x, y, and z". Even if he has done this before, the timing is off when w is definitely on the table at the time he said it wasn't. It's what I refer to as a decision point. Manipulating a decision point when the winds are blowing in different directions are what scum do to help town lynch themselves.
because if you don't narrow down options that's how you get five vanity wagons at deadline
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:10 pm
So just to make sure I'm getting you completely straight.
You want us to be elim'd because 2 of our reads (specifically Penguin/Cakez) did not change ? You think this is a good reason for pushing an elim? :3
You want us to be elim'd because 2 of our reads (specifically Penguin/Cakez) did not change ? You think this is a good reason for pushing an elim? :3
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:11 pm
I agree that all of F&G's townreads being people not interested in elimming them is off
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:11 pm
To make a long story short, I think your reads are fabricated.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:12 pm
oh ok now we're getting somewhere.
Which one do you think is fake? Let's go through the reasoning and you can let us know what's fake.
Which one do you think is fake? Let's go through the reasoning and you can let us know what's fake.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm
ABR doesn't it feel weird to you how this wagon only formed within a day of deadline though?
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm
I've never been good at explaining my reasons in the first place, I'm more of a blunt instrument pushing through the squalor to get to the gold.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:14 pm
The deadline is paused. We have time back on our side.In post 1647, SirCakez wrote:ABR doesn't it feel weird to you how this wagon only formed within a day of deadline though?