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In post 1619, Lapsa wrote:

In post 1541, Theta Alpine wrote: who else do you think is scum

No ideas why you explained the joke. Rest may follow.

Hey Lapsa. No time no see.

there's 15 townies and 5 scum. Willing to take a bullet to take out a scum is not "suicidal stupidity".

In post 1626, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:there's 15 townies and 5 scum. Willing to take a bullet to take out a scum is not "suicidal stupidity".

Yes it is if you can get them executed without dying first

that's literally not how the game works

In post 1628, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:that's literally not how the game works

So TS can't get the group consensus pass to you?

do you see her trying to get the group consensus to me?

It's not like after I challenged her to 1:1 with Noraa at 3 that she decided to try to shift group consensus to me and get me at 3. She backed off and started poking elsewhere. I'm the one who pursued and is chasing the 1:1 -> noraa.

It's like you're describing a fantasy hypothetical situation that didn't even happen.

There is a difference between town mindset this game and scum mindset.

Town WANT to trade 1:1 for scum and blow them up to kingdom come.

Scum WANT to survive and hide until endgame.

You trying to spin this as "suicidal stupidity" is downright ludicrious.

I don't know what did or did not happen. I just don’t see how someone has to take a 1 v 1 in this setup to have a confident scumread.

maybe you should read our back and forth instead of throwing out random hypotheticals that didnt happen then

because if you are a low influence spot like TS is and you're TOWN and nobody is listening to you on somebody who is 95% scum - you are willing to blow yourself up to take them out.

Thats basic psych.

Reading your particular events wouldn't change my opinion. It's a setup based one, not one based on any particular fact.

Now, if someone claiming a confident scumread decided to blow up anyone but their scumread, we can take it as a scumclaim. We'd have to get them a scroll first, which requires independent reasons for them to be scummy.

Do you have those?

P.S. I don't read on subbing in.

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Can confirm.

I'm not bothering to recap thoughts on the utter chaos that happened in my absence. If I'm skipping questions, get to me before 12AM CST.

I'll tell you my reads are mostly the same, except I'm willing to stuff Hopkirk into null. (I don't like the content, but the readable posts help. I'll need more time to determine my thoughts on what the content says for Hopkirk's alignment.)

I do like Titus. The aggression mixed into the curiosity is pinging me as town -- it reminds me of my high pressure pushes.

I'll also say that I think Pooky is super scummy and while I would love to save Tayl0r or doomed Noraa from the curse, Pooky is a great trade because they've been dodging deep inspection because of the town leader (who I think has been pocketed) running interference all game long. Noraa is doomed regardless, and Tayl0r's going to be hard to fit into everyone's townbloc and could create issues with town coalescence as a result, so we get game progression and easier reads for the folks who aren't getting what I'm getting from Tayl0r and Noraa.

Here's a funny little thing about Pooky: we've discussed the dangers of leashing scroll-passes, we decided that a Noraa leash was an acceptable compromise (well, not for me but I agree with the logic of the argument if I was scumreading Noraa), and then Pooky proposes a fully locked down chain of scroll-passing. I'm not sure if this is more likely to come from town who is not paying much attention to what they're doing, or more likely to be gambiting scum to retain their safe position, but I don't like it either way. (Another possibility is that it's scum playing a double layered gambit, presuming that Tayl0r has a spicier, townier target she'll take first if she does accept the scroll. See the Tayl0r vs LLD thing.)

nice Mush

I respond to your bullshit on me and you don't even respond to my response instead the same recycled garbage

very nice

A+

Pooky got your back (with a knife)

oh now willing to die in position 2 is scummy

genius Mush

genius

I love it keep the spicy nonsense coming

Are we ok with Taylor > Pooky > LLD if pooky is scum? What % of the time does that happen?

I do think you are more likely to be town based off this pooky, just exploring all angles

I do believe pookybear is grumpybear.
What's with all the grumpy bears.

Pooky, there's so much happening that when I wake up to, just eyeballing it here but it looks like 17 new pages, I cannot keep track. Repost your question, I'll answer it, but I don't want to dig through that godawful slog again for it.

In post 1346, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1326, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:But here you are, with Pooky, treating it as if it's vitally important to hit Noraa right now or you might not have enough people somehow or something I don't know it's ridiculous.

In post 1330, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Pooky immediately starts telling Bell the wonders of Curse-Noraa-Now-ology

I am not in the Noraa-dies-now camp - see 1045 1053 1056 1058 1062 1222 1223 1226


I am literally the first person to unvote noraa and say we should save her for last.

I have repeatedly pointed to the upside of this approach.

You shading me as a "kill noraa now person" is ridiculous because it is not reality.

Mush are you going to respond to me or just keep spamming walls of trash?

In post 1645, Bell wrote:I do believe pookybear is grumpybear.
What's with all the grumpy bears.

all my joy left this game when isis replaced out

i do not even want to be here

Can't you just lurk instead of thinking you have people pegged when you have like 1 or 2 games of experience with Taylor (which is about what I have), and Noraa who basically admitted they were scum by I guess thread avoiding so I retract my previous statement that they were town. But agree that maybe 3rd scroll be good.