I think it's weird that Dunn would respond to my conspiracy theory argument that he/tgp are red/red scum theater with "ok flip TGP first" if he thought TGP was red.
because TGP flipping red doesn't exactly help him rebutt that argument,
the way "flip TGP first" would make sense as a response to me is if Red!Dunn was annoyed at being caught for wrong reasons and wanted to prove red/red scumtheater theory is stupid by flipping TGP!Green.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:50 pm
by Infinity 324
It doesn’t help him disprove that theory, but it does help him flip scum, which is a town thing to want.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:55 pm
by Infinity 324
VOTE: pooky I’ll talk about this a bit later, but I saw some scum!pooky aggression with their push on dunn before the elim. I also am not sure why they weren’t more concerned about a TGP elim given the above theory since it implies that TGP is town.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:57 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
oooooookkkk
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:15 pm
by Flea The Magician
In post 1627, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: pooky I’ll talk about this a bit later, but I saw some scum!pooky aggression with their push on dunn before the elim. I also am not sure why they weren’t more concerned about a TGP elim given the above theory since it implies that TGP is town.
Why did you vote a slot you hard, hard townread? I'll try to remember to delete this if it gets answered later in my catchup.
No, it's pretty mysterious. Why? Do you have skitter as locktown? It's still hard to follow with how strong you represented the TGP townread.
This bugs me no matter what TGP flips here
I never expected the dunn wagon to go through. The dunn vote was mostly to see how much resistance it got. If it got a couple votes, then people moved to hammer TGP, that would make dunn more likely to be scum. But the fact that a bunch of people all got onto dunn, including hopkirk who hasn't been around, and pooky who started to remind me of their scumgame, it weirded me the hell out and I start to doubt myself. The most likely scenario in my head was still that both wagons were town, but I definitely had a had time seeing scum!dunn and town!tgp. TGP was also a super high reward wagon if it flipped scum, since that would imply skitter!town and dunn!town and potentially pooky!scum.
I didn't actually have too much else to say about pooky. But here were the places where I think they were oddly aggressive and reminded me of scum!them. I just want pooky to explain their thought process behind the tgp/dunn thing, where they started to think TGP might be town, and what a red flip from TGP would imply.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:06 pm
by Morning Tweet
@Hectic V/LA until Wednesday please
i really need to prioritize a bunch of other things right now (ノ﹏ヽ) im very sorry
sorry is this about dunn or hopkirk? cuz i thought dunn at first and i would in no way agree with this assessment of dunn at all ^
I don’t know why, every towngame I ‘ve read of his, he has done more than he is here. He’s only given one townread so far: Flea and two maybe three scumreads: TGP, and now Pooky. And even that post he made about launching players due to their post count. he can’t bother to make actual reads or what?
At any rate Isis is a terrible vote. I strongly tr her pre-flip and it’s actually even stronger post-flip.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:21 pm
by Infinity 324
I actually think I’ve seen dunn do more in scumganes than town games generally. I don’t think lurking is scummy at all for him.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:22 pm
by Gloria Cleary
People think Dunn is townier than Pooky.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:24 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 1634, Infinity 324 wrote:I actually think I’ve seen dunn do more in scumganes than town games generally. I don’t think lurking is scummy at all for him.
Who said I sr him for lurking, because I’m dam sure I never said anything of the kind.
Maybe I’m just not doing a terrific job of articulating it well. It’s the content of his posts I dislike. He really isn’t saying much of anything of substance plus his tone seems kind of off. Town!Dunn may lurk and not post a lot that is true but when he does it’s useful content and solvey, no matter how much or how little. It’s not the number of posts, it’s what he’s saying in them.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:46 pm
by Infinity 324
Hmm ok. Can you quote some examples of not-solvy posts?
I felt some earnestness from his response to pooky’s push, and I have a hard time believing the dunn wagons forms as fast as it did if he’s scum and TGP is town.
I felt some earnestness from his response to pooky’s push, and I have a hard time believing the dunn wagons forms as fast as it did if he’s scum and TGP is town.
why would a CW even form if he's same alignment as tgp
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:48 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1641, Infinity 324 wrote:I have a hard time believing the dunn wagons forms as fast as it did if he’s scum and TGP is town.
what does this even mean?
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:49 pm
by Infinity 324
It’s more that scum would almost never vote dunn in that situation, and statistically there’s very likely at least one scum on that wagon (of 5 at its height, I believe)
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:50 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 1631, Infinity 324 wrote:I just want pooky to explain their thought process behind the tgp/dunn thing, where they started to think TGP might be town, and what a red flip from TGP would imply.
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:09 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 1644, Infinity 324 wrote:It’s more that scum would almost never vote dunn in that situation, and statistically there’s very likely at least one scum on that wagon (of 5 at its height, I believe)
Statistically, scum is far more likely to be on TOWN!TGP wagon, since there was heavy resistance to Dunn. Why would scum try to derail a wagon on TGP? That makes absolutely no sense.
I hopped up to e-2 instantly and then some people switched
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:10 pm
by Dunnstral
And the resistance was in fact to tgp
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:19 pm
by Infinity 324
Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 1644, Infinity 324 wrote:It’s more that scum would almost never vote dunn in that situation, and statistically there’s very likely at least one scum on that wagon (of 5 at its height, I believe)
Statistically, scum is far more likely to be on TOWN!TGP wagon, since there was heavy resistance to Dunn. Why would scum try to derail a wagon on TGP? That makes absolutely no sense.
The probability of a given set of 4 people currently alive having at least 1 scum (assuming 3 scum total) is about 75%. If dunn is scum, scum are just as likely to vote dunn or TGP since it doesn’t matter to them who gets limmed. If dunn is scum, scum would almost never vote dunn. Since 4 people excluding myself voted dunn, that group is likely to have at least 1 scum, so dunn is likely town.
Also yeah, there was almost no resistance to dunn.