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Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:21 pm**

In post 1621, Taly wrote:If
{BM/MC}
contain any scum then I'm confident that I'm a scum pocket. :/

OWER
, do you think 1318 and 1563 gamestates can realistically coexist?

IE, mine from a solving standpoint and yours from a narrative control point.

allow me to make sure I'm parsing this right:

1318 is you TR'ing BM, Flea, Pooky, Reck, Murder, Alisae, Gamma, and me, correct? And your asking me if I think that these reads can be correct while the game narrative I've observed is also true.

I gotta say no. Leaves too few people who fit the suspect behaviors I'm looking for in the game state and none of them actively contributed to the halt of the game narrative the way MC has. I mean, there is a chance but I find it very slim.

But I should iterate that this is only my POV, and I'm also certain that there is mostly likely one or more scum outside the behaviors I'm looking for. Which is why I want a flip so I can get a better handle on that.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:38 pm**

In post 1623, Bell wrote:In regards to MC, he is a little off. But it's not to the point that I can point at it and think he's scum for it.
He's a little more lowkey, a little more bystandery, I don't see much in the way of manipulation in his posts or interactions beyond a kind of meta manipulation, but ironically, I do this as town because I try to be town read as town cause I hate being voted so.
wifom Loop.

Yeah I do it too, want some links I can show you

I don't know why people expect me to do stuff, I did nothing on D1 of death curse

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:50 pm**

Sure, link me up.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:04 pm**

Ha ok I was mostly joking but sure.

Death Curse is the most obvious example, as I pointed out in post game I was actively manipulating my posts to come across as towny. I actually did it to you here.

In terms of actively manipulating meta, here is somewhere Shea called me out for playing off meta and shortly after I did this.

I can probably find more examples later but I am going to go play among us now.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:06 pm**

In post 1626, MURDERCAT wrote:I don't know why people expect me to do stuff, I did nothing on D1 of death curse

didnt you solve the entire game on d1 b4 the first scroll pass?

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:08 pm**

Oh yeah you're right how could I forget

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:08 pm**

VoteCount 1.47

MURDERCAT [6]

outworldER Akarin xRECKONERx alisae sircakez battle mage

blitzo [3]

thegoldenparadox murdercat titus

titus [2]

haschel cedricson DrippingGoofball

Battle Mage [2]

blitzo flea the magician

DrippingGoofball [1]

taly

xRECKONERx [1]

pookythemagicalbear

sircakez [1]

bell

Not Voting [1]

gamma emerald

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:13 pm**

Also I want to respond to Flea's post but fae needs to fix the links

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:14 pm**

That doesn't feel like quite the same thing because it was more of a reassurance that my interpretation was true more than a, 'I will intentionally say this to get town read.'

I like self-meta. Probably because I rely on, I need a word that's better for tone here, what and how people choose to write and I think is most likely to come from scum/town.
A lot of mafia seems to be about what you choose to believe based on what you think is more likely to be a scum or town action/ wording.

Also, how come nobody told me they've played with Blitzo before.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:16 pm**

Give me your solve Murderkitty. I dunno why you forgot about it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:56 pm**

Well I can link you to plenty of games where I don't do much D1.
And don't worry I haven't forgotten, but I'm actually going to put effort into it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:10 pm**

thegoldenparadox has been prodded

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:12 pm**

please explain to me
why in the world we are voting murdercat
who is transparently bleeding town
and not blitzo
who is transparently bleeding scum

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:14 pm**

i've cased blitzo enough there not much i have left to say
will try to towncase murdercat but i'm not sure i have the energy
maybe they are just very nice scum :/

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:19 pm**

ur blitzo case is nitpicky and biased i win baibai turn the case off

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:29 pm**

Iirc only one point has been effectively refuted

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:38 pm**

Blitzo has been prodded

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:45 pm**

In post 1640, Gamma Emerald wrote:Iirc only one point has been effectively refuted

What point do you find most persuasive?

Also, any thoughts on your RQS, doubt we're getting any more answers.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:09 pm**

That prod was faster than expected.
I'm actually about to head to bed but I'm not leaving without catching up and posting some thoughts first.
Pooky voting reck for poor planning, then voting someone due to reck's idea then immediately flipping around and voting reck makes next to no sense and probably makes him mafia.
Titus jumping onto my wagon is lazy and mediocre.
@Bell - I think it's hilarious that you're townreading me because of my avatar but I really need to know if there's something behind that.
@Gamma - is there a specific point on the case on me that you feel hasn't been addressed specifically?
I feel like I've addressed them all.
I need to spend time looking into the MC wagon.
I definitely don't trust him but I feel like it exploded rather quickly which makes me somewhat hesitant.
I'll check into some of his more recent posts and see if anything has changed for me.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:41 pm**

I do feel like I've addressed the case.
I'm not sure what TGP is doing at this point and don't understand why he's not doing anything other than halfheartedly pushing a dead case after being prodded twice?
Is there something I legitimately missed or what's going on here?
I feel like I'm also forgetting something else but I can't remember what it was.
Anyways, I'm going to check back in tomorrow.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:47 pm**

VOTE: blitzo

i hate the new avatar

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:46 pm**

In post 1607, OutWorldER wrote:Flea why are you not voting MC.

BM is transparently busing MCat but he can go out the airlock next.

dude, we're both town here, let's keep it chill

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:42 pm**

I gotta stop using notes PTs and just use a damn notepad. Bear with while I fix it. I'm still not 100% but at elast the burning sensation has stopped

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:52 pm**

I am ready to end the day.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:59 pm**

Whoo regex for quick fixes. and ngl regex makes one of my tasks sooooo much easier, provided I account for tags anyway.

In post 1619, Flea The Magician wrote:ok so linking backwards and backwards...
#1553 is outworld complaining legitimately about game-state. People to look at are:
- The ones that were pushing the agenda and shaping the narrative (IIRC, Pooky, Alisae, Reck, HC - reck and HC shaping the counter narrative)
- Slots that are low-activity, flip floppy or keeping the game stagnant. Low activity is easily checked with the activity overview, HC, Blitzo, and TGP are the bottom 3 with <50 posts each. Also I'm glad I'm happy with my Alisae read rn because 203 posts to iso, hell naw.

Murder is said to be one of the ones keeping the game stagnant and apparently being happy to do so in #1563(OWER) which is then pointing to #1180...

yes I know I'm IIoA'ing at the moment, I'm writing what I'm thinking as I go and I like to show where I'm thinking what.

MC's been pretty heavy on the mass claiming of rooms thing. MC not "knowing enough" about the setup to force claims, Mc knows more than he's letting on? Like I know nothing beyond whats in the first post and that we've got 1, 2 or 3 tasks each.

Akarin goes on the attack, calling MC out for what OWER's started the wagon on.

pooks is pookytheangereybear. I think i've got a Kaomoji for that... do I have the spoons to go find it... yes I do. ʕ ᵒ̌ ‸ ᵒ̌ ʔ

OWER I'm curious in your scumteam atm? That I can see you seem to be suspect of Titus, BM and MC, correct?

Going to quickly skim over the iso, no thought-streaming this time, sorry. And I'm specifically looking for supporting and opposing thing. Subject to my paranoia and current twisted perceptions due to painfog and burning sensations, and sleepiness.
#48 - We shouldn't assume we can no-lim to alt wincon victory, but we should anyway?
#86 - despite claiming in #53, suddenly worried about giving out TMI? This post seems weirdly out of place too and has odd tone.
#112 - Votes Cakez because cakey called out MC for thinking outing everything is good.
#310 - MC can't restrict his post count, and is going to fail one of his tasks... weird for someone worried about TMI'ing
#338 - Oh no he's joking... but still drops information.

Like I'm getting a sense here that MC's posts are weirdly out of place.

#444 - in what realm is a wagon a bad thing to have rolling? Weight or not, 1 vote is still 1 vote and it's still someone saying "I firmly believe that you are a baddie". Information is generated from that.
#539 - reversal of #86 possibly
#607 - Buddying reck?
#716 - From what I know, rule of 3 would prove you scum more than town, surely?
#733 - I can see the stagnation here. "Oh yeah claim if you want, don't if you don't. But some should and some shouldn't. We can't force it but we shouldn't know everything but the more we know the better" is my translation.
#908 - Same as Titus, you're not daft enough to think this can be won exclusively on tasks. I get wanting to explore the mechanic and I can't wait to see peoples restrictions. But I'm sure you know better.
#952 - Another one still in RVS?
#964 - Boris Johnson. If you know you know. "Go out, but don't go out. Go to work, but don't go to work. Use public transport, but go to work, but social distance. Don't use public transport if possible."
#1043 - TMI? Not sure if MC is familiar with Among Us at all though.
#1055 - I can understand why people would misunderstand this, but reading the post n question (#1053 it's clear that Akarin is speculating about setup and not pushing anything.
#1102 - No SRs, a few TRs. No mention of leans, maybe efforts later.

There's a lot of shitposts at this point. playful maybe? I know I fluffpost a lot but there is content in there if you get past it.

#1131 - reads promised.
#1135 - reads delivery in descending order. Pooks, OWER, Reck, Alisae, Flea, Bell. Taly, Cakez, Blitzo. Nulls are tgp, hc, dgb, bm, gamme, titus and akarin. Admits he should have a readon on some of these but doesn't for whatever reason.
#1173 - posts like this always seem LAMIST to me.

I'm about to pass out so can't do more, will pick it up again later.

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