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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:07 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 1620, Momrangal wrote:I thought you were calling us lurkers because we have lives and can't post 50 posts a day
i mean, if i sat online all day and played mafia all day I prob could do it but....

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:32 pm
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Nero Cain
Not the response I wanted.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:50 pm
by Vaxkiller
In post 1534, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1364, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 1343, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind
Are you town reading not_mafia?
he could be town, but even if he's scum the things BC did for him looked questionable
Duuuuude

Who white nights NM?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:53 pm
by chkflip
Do we really want to have enough day phase to try and push that through or is that more like a wait for tomorrow type of read, eh Glamma Amberhold?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:56 pm
by Gamma Emerald
It’s a wait-and-see read I’d say

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:59 pm
by Vaxkiller
In post 1577, Bypasser Catcher wrote:ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.
What?

Like can a mason and a weak something neighboriser exist? Did yo put up a stink? Lemme check

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:11 pm
by BBmolla
In post 1577, Bypasser Catcher wrote:ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.
bro why'd you claim it's gonna be obvious it's me

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:25 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1577, Bypasser Catcher wrote:ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.
Is this real

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:02 pm
by chkflip
I'm obviously all for new avenues, but at this stage of the phase you're going to have to show why it isn't just another standalone vote.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:11 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Er, which one

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:14 pm
by chkflip
Any of the standalone votes, honestly, but I brought it up because of yours (unless someone else was voting Nero?).

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:18 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Norwegian also voted him, and maybe one more person I am forgetting

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:27 pm
by Momrangal
Mmmm I feel like I was piggy backed pretty hard, I never expressed a TR on Nero, I just hated the reasons for the scum-reads on his slot

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:27 pm
by chkflip
How the fuck did I

Okay. Your discrepancy lies in the way he replied to you, I get that, but why Nero over either leading wagon? If there's more prior to his reply you don't like then feel free to refresh me.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:33 pm
by Momrangal
In post 1625, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1620, Momrangal wrote:I thought you were calling us lurkers because we have lives and can't post 50 posts a day
i mean, if i sat online all day and played mafia all day I prob could do it but....
I feel like our hydra drew scum just enough times that I understand that you have the instinct to get behind whoever it is that is correctly scum-reading your slot while keeping up your typical Nero sass regardless of that person current sway of the game state.

It almost feels like you're trying to continue to stay on my good side so that I'll defend you further

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:37 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I agree with Norwegian that Nero isn’t showing his solving that I’ve gotten used to seeing from him in his town games, and he just generally seems disengaged. His response to me and the momrangal defense was what tipped me over the edge though, since rather than engage the conversation as a whole he tried to put out a fake sorting response of whether momrangal would defend him like that as town or scum. I would expect town to have an approach like “I’m not able to active because of irl, momrangal knows that, and (alignment discussion stuff)”. That’s not what Nero did, instead he dived into the alignment stuff because I presume that’s what he thought people wanted. In addition I feel like his knowledge of NM’s claim is a glaring issue, and I’m not one to let go of that sort of thing lightly because I know scum can and have made that sort of knowledge slip in that past. I caught Wisdom once off of that sort of thing.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:54 pm
by Bypasser Catcher
I demand the deadline be extended by 1 hour for the time the site was down even though i was sleeping during it

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:56 pm
by Bypasser Catcher
In post 1632, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1577, Bypasser Catcher wrote:ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.
Is this real
yeah with you :oops:
Or maybe not. Who knows?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:56 pm
by chkflip
VOTE: Nero Cain

I'll give you my vote for now.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:04 pm
by quiet
In post 1638, chkflip wrote:but why Nero over either leading wagon?
This.

I'll VOTE: Nero Cain, as what has been said by Gamma, Norwigian, Mom is compelling enough to me. I think I put less weight in noticing the NM claim being scummy, and more weight in the unNero-like response.

But is Nero a viable wagon at this point in the day?

Otherwise, can we consolidate onto Hayker (or NM, or whoever else) and move forward?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:17 pm
by quiet
To clarify, by unNero-like response, I mean how they seem "disinterested", how this playstyle is not similar to how they were town in other games, how Gamma noted their return was phrased in a way they wouldn't expect of town, the presupposition of scum!Mom as a reason to defend, etc. Those pings were more compelling to me than the idea that they knew about what I thought was a fairly visible, loudly discussed, very possibly trolly claim by a very...attention grabbing player?

Long day, being even less clear than normal. Sorry.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:20 pm
by Rannygazoo
There’s enough time, but I’d like to see an argument that’s not based on meta before I move my vote. There’s nothing I can say about meta.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:29 pm
by Momrangal
In post 1644, quiet wrote:
In post 1638, chkflip wrote:but why Nero over either leading wagon?
This.

I'll VOTE: Nero Cain, as what has been said by Gamma, Norwigian, Mom is compelling enough to me. I think I put less weight in noticing the NM claim being scummy, and more weight in the unNero-like response.

But is Nero a viable wagon at this point in the day?

Otherwise, can we consolidate onto Hayker (or NM, or whoever else) and move forward?
Why couldn't Nero cain be a viable wagon?

What makes Hayker or NM more viable?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:34 pm
by Momrangal
Hayker has 5 votes, NM has 5 votes, and when mine is added Nero will have 4 votes

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:41 pm
by Luca Blight
So why haven’t you added yours yet?