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[Datisi]

oh yeah, outworld, pls read 1209 and respond to the part addressed to you

[Frogsterking]

FYI there is a tell we should all look for once a little more time in the day has passed and we've heard from everyone again.

There is one we can look for now though, we can see if anyone brought up the RTP kill in a way that looks like gloating.

[catboi]

Vote Count 2.03

skitter30 (3):

Datisi, Aristeia, OutWorldER

VP Baltar (1):

innocentvillager

Andresvmb (1):

House

Aristeia (1):

MathBlade

Not Voting (5):

Andresvmb, skitter30, Something_Smart, VP Baltar, Frogsterking

With 11 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is February 7 at 8:00 PM EST.

Deadline Timer:

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[Frogsterking]

Did you mean to include the double negative so you don't think a50 wasn't the scum on the lap wagon, meaning a50 is a scum and you're looking at Datisi as a potential third?

That is not a double negative because those are independent clauses.

The big picture you are stating is correct though. A50 isn't scum, and I'm looking at datisi as a potential scumbag on the Lap wagon.

Normals include how many ways to obtain false reports?

[VP Baltar]

Did you mean to include the double negative so you don't think a50 wasn't the scum on the lap wagon, meaning a50 is a scum and you're looking at Datisi as a potential third?

That is not a double negative because those are independent clauses.

The big picture you are stating is correct though. A50 isn't scum, and I'm looking at datisi as a potential scumbag on the Lap wagon.

Normals include how many ways to obtain false reports?

Do you think I have no clue how to play this game?

[Datisi]

if you go on mafiascum wiki page on rolefishing, it has 1628 listed as an example

[Frogsterking]

That RTP died over either of us, however, is disconcerting.

I agree with this. Why do you think that was House?

IDK, this could be gloating

[Datisi]

("wow datisi, you said frogs was town and now you're calling him--" i still think he's town shut up i just think baltar has enough brain to check the normals wiki page and know if something is a 100% piece of info or not and that frogs shouldn't be questioning that rn)

[Datisi]

i think the more useful tell is "see if anyone seems certain on why rtp died"

however, the first thing i then think of is baltar's "here is why rtp is totally a kill made by scum!datisi" which hmm

[Frogsterking]

Did you mean to include the double negative so you don't think a50 wasn't the scum on the lap wagon, meaning a50 is a scum and you're looking at Datisi as a potential third?

That is not a double negative because those are independent clauses.

The big picture you are stating is correct though. A50 isn't scum, and I'm looking at datisi as a potential scumbag on the Lap wagon.

Normals include how many ways to obtain false reports?

Do you think I have no clue how to play this game?

if you go on mafiascum wiki page on rolefishing, it has 1628 listed as an example

1628 is a serious question, though I guess I made a faux pas which need not be answered.

[Datisi]

i am in the mood to argue with someone about nonsense that is the game of mafia, but i don't think i currently have anything to argue *about*

[Frogsterking]

i am in the mood to argue with someone about nonsense that is the game of mafia, but i don't think i currently have anything to argue *about*

Lap/OutworldER/S_S is the most logical solve prove me wrong

[Datisi]

you know, i DO want to believe in the "scum did literally nothing on d1", i really do

but the world isn't that kind to me

[Something_Smart]

if you go on mafiascum wiki page on rolefishing, it has 1628 listed as an example

In an ideal world it explains that the ratio of true rolefishing to rolefishing accusations is like 1:100.

[VP Baltar]

i am in the mood to argue with someone about nonsense that is the game of mafia, but i don't think i currently have anything to argue *about*

Your estimated best guess solve rn now is skitter and SS, right?

[Datisi]

how is that post not a rolefish

"frogster didn't intend it to be one" doesn't mean it's not one

[Datisi]

i am in the mood to argue with someone about nonsense that is the game of mafia, but i don't think i currently have anything to argue *about*

Your estimated best guess solve rn now is skitter and SS, right?

absolute gun-to-head, yes

[Something_Smart]

how is that post not a rolefish

"frogster didn't intend it to be one" doesn't mean it's not one

Doesn't it? I thought rolefishing had to be intentional.

I mean I think VP's role is pretty obvious, but that might just be me.

[Something_Smart]

1628 is a serious question, though I guess I made a faux pas which need not be answered.

The answer is two. Miller and ninja. Neither applies here.

[Datisi]

Doesn't it? I thought rolefishing had to be intentional.

no, it doesn't? just because you didn't think what you were doing is anti-town or you didn't intend to try to get another person to reveal more about their role, doesn't mean you didn't... do that

[Frogsterking]

I have trouble with coming up with a scum team that decides to bigbrain shoot RTP in order to frame Baltar rather than just let RTP live and death-tunnel Baltar into the ground

RTP is extremely loud and had strong thread influence/universally townread so I don't think scum really had a choice regardless of whether they were TPR or not.

I guess this could be gloating

[Something_Smart]

Well, my bad then. I've never heard "fishing" used metaphorically in a non-intentional sense. Regardless, I don't think that post was at all likely to get VP to give something away.

[OutWorldER]

@1209 I worded that wrong/confusingly, basically what I wanted to say is that RTP's aggressiveness in pushing wagons/SR's is not AI for them since they are always go hard on their pushes, but that also I do not think scum!RTP pushes Lapla as an SR at all in that scenario. Based on past meta with RTP, RTP would be more likely to defend their newbscum partner/divert course.

@1614 both Skitter and VP were being pushed hard by RTP day 1 and with Lap flipping scum RTP would be going into Day 2 with a lot of credibility. I think one of those two would've gotten turbolimmed already if RTP were alive right now, and RTP wasn't really pushing anyone else on D1. If Skitter and VP were town, I don't see why scum wouldn't just leave RTP alive and let RTP push through a mislim on D2 and then kill later.

@1615 Your Datisi push at the beginning of the day was really tinfoily and reachy. The "chain elim" argument is something I've seen from town before when they're paranoid about a slot and it's usually a bad argument since it's much more likely that the slot in question is just looking through potential associatives.

[Datisi]

i am in the mood to argue with someone about nonsense that is the game of mafia, but i don't think i currently have anything to argue *about*

Your estimated best guess solve rn now is skitter and SS, right?

absolute gun-to-head, yes

to add to this, i think outworld looks worse overall than s_s, *but* outworld gets a few townie points for being townread by the n1 kill
(pedit: without reading the above post)

[Frogsterking]

how is that post not a rolefish

"frogster didn't intend it to be one" doesn't mean it's not one

Doesn't it? I thought rolefishing had to be intentional.

I mean I think VP's role is pretty obvious, but that might just be me.

It's not obvious to me.

Do you think there was a busser on the Lap wagon now?

1628 is a serious question, though I guess I made a faux pas which need not be answered.

The answer is two. Miller and ninja. Neither applies here.

Thank you.