Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

does nancy/nero both being scum even make sense?
that whole interaction with them earlier was just scum theater?

In the universe where nancy is scum, which I don't believe, Nero was bussing them and they refused to bus back until now.

In that universe I would expect scum to hard bus Nero at this point because nancy now has vastly better odds of living to endgame.

THat's not what we're seeing when I'm still splitting hairs to try to get votes onto Nero

The problem with that is it is more advantage to no lynch than bus.

[Gorkington]

In the universe where nancy is scum, which I don't believe, Nero was bussing them and they refused to bus back until now.

In that universe I would expect scum to hard bus Nero at this point because nancy now has vastly better odds of living to endgame.

THat's not what we're seeing when I'm still splitting hairs to try to get votes onto Nero

its really hard to get to the same point as you when youre starting from a place of nero being scum
like
it might be obvious to you, but it isnt necessarily super obvious to everyone else?

like scum are one mislynch and a vig grab away from victory and scum are bussing? Like fuck that. It makes no sense. Scum are going in for the kill.

so you think the entire wagon on you is scum?

[MathBlade]

In the universe where nancy is scum, which I don't believe, Nero was bussing them and they refused to bus back until now.

In that universe I would expect scum to hard bus Nero at this point because nancy now has vastly better odds of living to endgame.

THat's not what we're seeing when I'm still splitting hairs to try to get votes onto Nero

its really hard to get to the same point as you when youre starting from a place of nero being scum
like
it might be obvious to you, but it isnt necessarily super obvious to everyone else?

like scum are one mislynch and a vig grab away from victory and scum are bussing? Like fuck that. It makes no sense. Scum are going in for the kill.

so you think the entire wagon on you is scum?

It is obvious to me. Been obvious a while.

[Nero Cain]

so you think the entire wagon on you is scum?

yes minus a Vecna or LUV.

[Gorkington]

yes minus a Vecna or LUV.

the entire scumteam is like "lol hopefully this works out for after he flips"?

It is obvious to me. Been obvious a while.

zzzz
im sorry.
but you and rc are both exhausting with this nonstop constant rhetoric.
i dont have any experience with nero or nancy from before this game.
it really isnt clear to me.
and i dont want to fuck this up.

[Gorkington]

probably being a little unfair because rc is at least trying to explain himself.
im just frustrated that i feel like i should know who is scum here
and i have no fucking clue.

[Gorkington]

and it really doesnt seem like scumVscum competing wagons to me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Man if you're town please just vote Nero.

I'm not good at 20 questions but I'm good at scumhunting. And you know as well as I do that there's no way that I'm scum with nancy.

It doesn't seem like it because it's not. nancy is town.

[Nero Cain]

the entire scumteam is like "lol hopefully this works out for after he flips"?

this is a presumed lylo. A mislynch and 3 kills wins them the game. Why would they worry about a tomorrow that's never going to come?

[Nero Cain]

and it really doesnt seem like scumVscum competing wagons to me.

Why am I scum for you?

[Gorkington]

lol
just because you say theres no way youre scum with nancy
doesnt mean youre not scum with nancy

if you think i dont think thats beyond your capabilities
i dont know what to tell you

p-edit: theres still PRs?

[Gorkington]

Why am I scum for you?

i dont see anything in your play that couldnt be faked.
if i was more confident than that, i would say so.
but im not.

[Nero Cain]

p-edit: theres still PRs?

there's new wonders each night. Like scum prob have the other vig and if they get the vig tonight that's 3 kills. A mislynch today gives them the number they need to endgame town.

[RadiantCowbells]

zzzzzzzz

[Gorkington]

in that case there would be a doc and a roleblocker.
if either of them landed successfully
scum would be completely fucked.

youre buying that theyre taking that risk?

[RadiantCowbells]

I am RC. I don't risk my life hard defending scumread scumbuddies when I'm going to win the game by default by attrition.

[CloudKicker]

I am RC. I don't risk my life hard defending scumread scumbuddies when I'm going to win the game by default by attrition.

i dont think you know what attrition means sherlock holmes

[RadiantCowbells]

I know precisely what attrition means and I note that you aren't voting Nero.

[Gorkington]

nerooooo

[nancy]

nancy is scum because
1) botched claim

You misinterpreted my claim. There is nothing "botched" about it.

2) replace out was NAI if anything scum aligned because he hated how he was scumread. Multiple scum have replaced out when I've pressured them.

If you honestly believe that SPIFFEH replaced out because you pressured him (I have no idea if that is even what happened) then you are delusional.

3) VCA

Faulty.

4) Lack of consistency multiple times when discussing reads

Indicates that I've been trying to figure my shit out, not that I'm scum.

5) Case on Yuri.

What case on Yuri and how does this mean that I'm scum? You were scumreading the slot.

6) Vecna D1 wagon (only applies if Vecna scum)

How does a Vecna wagon make me scum exactly?

You've got nothing on me Math. This Town is bad but it's not bad enough to lynch me.

[nancy]

Math, just talk to me. Stop for a second and pull yourself out of your narrative and talk to me.

[Nero Cain]

youre buying that theyre taking that risk?

I am yes. Assuming Senpai is the doc all they have to do is not shoot at people they are townreading. And even if there was a next day scum wouldn't have any trouble getting a mislynch. "Oh scum is Nero, Kid and Cloud" *flips town* "opps, I guess its Nero and Cloud" *Nero flips town* "opps I guess scum is Cloud and some other lynchbait like Caeser" scum are just chain mislynching her bro.

[Nero Cain]

nerooooo

and just look at the case on me. The case is that I'm getting bussed. That's just extremely manipulative. And RC does not give one shit that Ali, Leon and Nancy are calling him scum.

[MathBlade]

Math, just talk to me. Stop for a second and pull yourself out of your narrative and talk to me.

About?

[MathBlade]

lol I haven't scumread Leon but the fact you pushed RC means that my Drixx read is right and RC is wrong Town.

no it doesn't. I'm town.

Who is Town and who is scum Nero?

@Nero and nancy