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I'm also starting to think I might vig the survivor then we can deal with kiwi/bogre tomorrow.

No. IS is tomorrow's lynch.

Why?

Because he is clearly the odd-night SK. Whatever, we can discuss it tomorrow, I don't see much point arguing about it now.

He likely is. Although we might need his crosskill if things go badly on today's lynch/my shot. And I'm not entirely ruling out Nero being the ONSK and IS just being an idiot, since most of what's scummy about Nero is individual tells rather than ties.

Well assuming you're town and we've hit at least one of the remaining scum by tomorrow (and god, if both Darox and Nero flip town, I'm going to cry), we're in a pretty good position.

Assume only one of Nero/Darox is scum, it's likely 6:2:1 tomorrow, lynch IS, night kill, 5:2, that's good.

If both Darox/Nero are scum, even better.

I honestly don't see any way I'm moving my vote from IS tomorrow. Odd-night SK needs to die before he gets another shot.

Meh. You may or may not be right. At the very least though, I'd be incredibly wary of talking up an SK lynch tomorrow, because it makes it less likely scum will try to crosskill.

I don't see an odd-night SK being gimped without at least being bulletproof and possibly being something like an even-night commuter/roleblocker/whatever.

Otherwise, I'd have just asked you to shoot him.

Well, neither cop could pick him up. So that's inv-immune at minimum.

LOL if I'd been smarter it might have been better to imply to the scum might be an SK and nk-immune rather than making it completely obvious to anyone who's not an actual retard (IS) that I'm town.

Nice little tea party you guys are having. Its almost as if youre planning as to how to carve up the town.

By the way, im not the the Shuriken SK, despite of how much you have convinced yourselves over the fact.

Scum gameplan at night, you fuckin douche. But seriously, look at the amount of scumhunting effort Muffin is making. Him, GreyICE, and toog are the only ones in the game I have solid town reads on.

Stop batting down the weak strawmen, no one falls for that shit. Fonz is an Even night SK, Muffin is whatever. Im not going with whatever little gameplan you two are hatching up just because its convenient for the two of you. Again White Knighting with the equivalent of "you know whats good for us". What a load of bullshit.

Wait, what? White Knighting? How the fuck is it that? Are you just pulling random bullshit accusations out of a hat?

You think those greyice is town...because she is "scum hunting"?

I encourage mafia to take a shot at IS. He is obviously very pro-town and needs to die by your hands. It is in your best interests to kill him.

^ the above may or may not have been said in a completely monotonous voice.

↑ kiwieagle wrote:You think those greyice is town...because she is "scum hunting"?

Who's this addressed to? If you mean me, no, GreyICE is an IS-level douche, but SL simply wasn't scum.

↑ Internet Stranger wrote:Hey Nero, could you go through your own ISO and prove him wrong?

sure. Gimmie a few to type it all up.

↑ Oversoul wrote:Nero, is TV Mafia the only reason you think I am scum here? I lurked on purpose in that game to see how far I would get before people got suspicious. I only botched my claim and began posting once a) the town noticed I wasn't posting, and b) DMSIS was on the verge of a lynch. I wanted to give DMSIS another chance to use his rolecop ability.

I think the whole "i lurked on purpose" is merely an excuse. You were part of a team and doing something to harm the team is pretty fucking horrible. Perhaps you do need the sitewide ban that you've be talking about.

But here is not really the place. Yes I suspect you for more than just lurking. You avoid questions, your hiding behind Muffin and yeah, your lurking is horrible.

↑ The Fonz wrote:OK, so I just went back and looked at a few ISOs... Nero spent the faceoff screaming about how Oversoul and Amrun are scum. First thing today, he votes Muffin, who'd voted for him in the prior post (saying that Muffin vs OS should be the matchup). Then to IS. Then once a Darox wagon starts growing, he jumps to that. AT MUFFIN's instigation.

But, fuck it. Muffin's right, Nero is ABSOLUTELY playing to survive. There's no way his suspicions of OS and Amrun actually disappear like that -given how forceful he was about them yesterday - if he's town.

Given my last post of the last day phase was about Muffin being scummy...

I can only vote one at a time. I voted Muffin first. Thats all. I find it stupid how...

then say



WHEN I FUCKING WANTED OS IN THE RING WITH MUFFIN!!!

My suspicion of OS and Amrun never disapeared. In 1395 guess who wasn't in my list of town reads? And then again I argue with Amrun later in the day phase. Then I ask for a vig shot on OS and Amrun. And THEN I posted a link to try and drum up support for an OS wagon.

I never voted for IS. Again Darox was never in my list of town reads in 1395. And in 1473 I reveal that he's my 4th scum read. Theres no support for an OS or Amrun lynch (thier idiot rutine has fooled you and muffin) Darox is the suspect that I can get in the ring.

↑ Nero Cain wrote:

I can only vote one at a time. I voted Muffin first. Thats all. I find it stupid how...

(saying that Muffin vs OS should be the matchup).

Yes, you can only vote one matchup at a time. Given that you were asserting that OS and Amrun were obvscum, i would have expected the day to open with a push on one of them. And instead, you vote Muffin, then afterward make what looks very much like an afterthough 'Oh and he should fight OS' post. IE, 'Shit, I just made a big post and didn't mention my previous top suspect, I'd better make a throwaway accusation against him so people don't accuse me of backing off."

then say

There's no way his suspicions of OS and Amrun actually disappear like that

WHEN I FUCKING WANTED OS IN THE RING WITH MUFFIN!!!

That's such a common way for scum to quietly back off of a suspicion in favor of a more convenient one. "No no, I suspected X AND OS, it's just that I only have one vote!" Right, and on the evidence of your ranting yesterday, if it were genuine, you'd have come out of the gate voting for one or other. Maybe even, I dunno, tried to convince other people to vote them?

My suspicion of OS and Amrun never disapeared. In 1395 guess who wasn't in my list of town reads? And then again I argue with Amrun later in the day phase. Then I ask for a vig shot on OS and Amrun. And THEN I posted a link to try and drum up support for an OS wagon.

I never voted for IS. Again Darox was never in my list of town reads in 1395. And in 1473 I reveal that he's my 4th scum read. Theres no support for an OS or Amrun lynch (thier idiot rutine has fooled you and muffin) Darox is the

ONLY

suspect that I can get in the ring.

Right, and if you'd tried to rally support and failed, that would be one thing. But you didn't. You went straight to muffin with an omgus vote without even kicking the tires on OS/Amrun. Then all of a sudden to a previous town read (I don't care if you had a scum read before you had a town read before you had a scum read) because THE PLAYER YOU WERE VOTING told you to, when he just happened to be the counterwagon to you.

Point taken on IS.

I mean, there's compromising to get a good lynch rather than holding out for a perfect one, and then there's voting for someone who you yourself just admitted had three different players you 'thought were scummier,' at the instigation of one of those three.

Bogre laying on some ATE in his latest posts.

"I know I am going to get lynched because I am lurkish, but that is ok because my lynch will help town."

If Fonz isn't going to shoot him, we need to put him in today.

↑ The Fonz wrote:I'm also starting to think I might vig the survivor then we can deal with kiwi/bogre tomorrow.

He needs to die ASAP

↑ Toogeloo wrote:Bogre laying on some ATE in his latest posts.

"I know I am going to get lynched because I am lurkish, but that is ok because my lynch will help town."

This is blatantly not true. I said I might be lynched, which is obvious is thrown in. The lynch of ANY of the people I mentioned will help the town, but for me myself, I think you would have a big proportion of the scum going for it (less need to put exceptional reasons down for voting someone who had been less present) and wouldn't put much suspicion on them.

I just think the stagnation we are now facing is the most dangerous thing against us, and I don't mind shaking that up a bit.

↑ GreyICE wrote:

↑ The Fonz wrote:I'm also starting to think I might vig the survivor then we can deal with kiwi/bogre tomorrow.

unvote

Vote: Bogre

He needs to die ASAP

Okay...why? You have little to explain why you got on Darox in the first place. Now you're switching to me as soon as people start mentioning me again?

Full reasonings for the Darox vote, and mine, please.