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In post 1630, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1628, qwints wrote:Wisdom, will you at least agree that scum has an incentive not to challenge another team that has scum on it? That's why it's a small point in Venmar's favor.

No. AP was a popular scumread at the time and Venmar-scum could know that even if he didn't get me lynched, AP would still get lynched.
I don't think that's likely due to his reaction test ofc, but that's another story.
The point is that Venmar does not gain any town points for that challenge, since he never contributed in a NS lynch.

are you freaking out about venny wis tell me tell me now

In post 1650, pirate mollie wrote:are you freaking out about venny wis tell me tell me now

Nope, try to read the game next time

In post 1590, Amrun wrote:a) I am not even in the lynch pool at this point, which shows how unconcerned mollie actually is about the game state.[/uote]

it was reactionary and contingent to what was going at the time and you very well fucking know it.

[uote]b) It shows a heightened sense of self-awareness and over defensiveness, because her portrayal of what is actually happening is not even close to reality.

erm no. that is a gross misrep to what was actually going on at the time.

c) Mollie never really corrects this and engages in the game state, just fencesits galore.

erm, wrong again. I engage in the game state but "fencesit galore"? lol

p-edit:

LOL

I didn't avoid the NS wagon. I actually started it, though eventually unvoted in order to vote for AP. Still, with a little less lazy and more unique thought, that could have been turned into something. But it wasn't -- that's the laziest, most opportunistic vote. He doesn't spend ANY time on his other scum "read," which doesn't make sense as scum with me in ANY universe, and he doesn't even have enough scumreads. If he was just like "I'm voting Amrun because I want to live!" then that would be one thing, but he has to fake a scumread badly. That's a wrap, folks.

The only thing that has any legitimacy at all is trying to take "credit," for the wagon, but that's not how I intended that post and it's not inconsistent with anything I ever posted.

I supported the wagon the whole way through, even though I openly thought he had a better chance of flipping town than scum

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lol

you did the exact same thing that you accuse me of doing that I am not actually doing. you hedged on your read on ns, did not vote and are now trying to say that you are town because of it?

if anybody actually buys this shit I am going to eat their liver. cos this reasoning is shit

No, you DON'T engage in the game state. I don't know how you could misread that because not only is it clear, but no one would say you engaged in the game state because you blatantly did not.

And no, I never actually hedged on my read of ns. I was very open with it; I said he was more likely town, but town dead weight. I voted on the wagon first, then unvoted, and offered to hammer though AP went first.

And besides, the point wasn't that you fencesat on the wagon as much as the next day you were like "oh, he was bussed!" without actually proposing who bussed him then OR even now.

WAIT A MINUTE

Did you seriously just suggest you DID NOT hedge your read on NS?

like

real talk?

In post 1645, Wisdom wrote:No you haven't. You never explained in detail what makes Venmar town, your AP townread is too vague (even AP said he doesn't know what you're reading him as), and your Majiffy townread was strong for bullshit reasons at first, yet you're starting to "freak out" now. As for your read on me.. as I said you should have townread me ages ago but you don't, and it's weird.

yes I did. mebbe you missed it

venny put himself front and central and I have been sus of him but upon the flip it does not make sense for him to do what he did at the time when he was scum. <----- how the fuck are you missing this and trying to say that I never explained shit.

"put himself front and central"
How the fuck did he do that? You have yet to explain that to me.

In post 1646, Wisdom wrote:And who else did you townread again? Grim? Please explain your townread on Grim.

why don't you read the game wis which is exactly why you are *scumreading me* when you suggest that I am not. I am.

you also said that I was less active in this game which is a lie cos I am pretty sure I an active poster!

What is your read on qwints?

Show me where you explained your townread on Grim

In post 1648, Amrun wrote:

In post 662, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 659, Wisdom wrote:The more you tell me to unvote the one who you initiated this challenge for the more my vote won't go anywhere. It's just hypocritical.

And mollie gets false townreads all the time, it can happen.

there are 3 players on here that I can pretty much guarantee that I can read. majiffy is 1 of them.

there were extenuating circumstances in the gonzo game for me voting the way that I did. it resulted in me probably never playing with buldey again and it makes me sad cos I feel like I lost a friend.

In post 1642, pirate mollie wrote:I still think majiffy is town. it freaks me out when he vote parks and then disappears cos this is what he did in the only game where he managed to sneak past me as scum. there are 6 players on this site I expect a lot from in order to townread them and he is one of them cos I have shared enough meta knowledge with them that they could get past my meta reads. majiffy is at the top of the list.

Explain this discrepancy, please.

I do can not give a 100% clearance of majiffy without mod clearance. I have no role to do that I am going by what we have shared in the game he reads as town

let's talk about your major hedging of ns whom you said you could read. but I bet you don't wanna

In post 1630, Wisdom wrote:The point is that Venmar does not gain any town points for that challenge, since he never contributed in a NS lynch.

Are you seriously arguing that putting NS in the pool to be lynched is 'not contributing to the NS lynch'. Venmar put NS in danger and NS got lynched. This is a really dumb technicality you are arguing. Even if you don't think Venmar deserves credit for this, why is it a scummy point for Qwints to make? Is it really so baseless you cant understand someone else finding it NOTEWORTHY?

Its not like hes showering Venmar in towncred for it, holy butt.

In post 1631, qwints wrote:But a lynch pool with TWO scum is less good for scum than a lynch pool with ONE scum. Venmar-scum could easily have created a lynch-pool with ONE scum by challenging a two-townie team or a team with only one person on it.

This is completely ignoring the possibility that I could be scum, but you did say you think Im town so meh.

In post 1633, Wisdom wrote:It would be hypocrisy if he challenged anyone else.

But Venmar didn't actually have to issue a challenge in the first place. Would you find him less town if that were the case than you do right now?

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Mollie, keep making posts because each one you make makes me townread you harder.

In post 1642, pirate mollie wrote:I also played with him in state farm briefly where he was town and people were all gung ho for his lurking and inadequate play.

Hmmm. Speaking of Statefarm mafia, I was gonna say earlier but forgot: SD isn't nearly as ragey as he was there. But given that he was barely in this game at all I don't think thats necessarily scummy of him.

In post 1644, pirate mollie wrote:I FUCKING DID NOT "freak out" about majiffy stop misrepping me

ap you and amrun are stoking fires

:/, I don't think you are scum though <3

unless you mean me bringing up Majiffy at all, in which case: :/

Pedit: Oh god I so many posts while Im distracted playing 7 wonders.

In post 1649, Amrun wrote:

In post 1647, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1575, Amrun wrote:Every five seconds she goes "oh, I had a freak out moment about him but then it was okay," though.

put up or stfu

and that was not a freak out moment. when I freak out you will know it

I already QUOTED what I meant. But thanks try again later.

yeah and then I later read how you acknowledged it was not a "freak out" moment.

how about YOU try again right the fuck NOW

In post 1661, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1648, Amrun wrote:

In post 662, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 659, Wisdom wrote:The more you tell me to unvote the one who you initiated this challenge for the more my vote won't go anywhere. It's just hypocritical.

And mollie gets false townreads all the time, it can happen.

there are 3 players on here that I can pretty much guarantee that I can read. majiffy is 1 of them.

there were extenuating circumstances in the gonzo game for me voting the way that I did. it resulted in me probably never playing with buldey again and it makes me sad cos I feel like I lost a friend.

In post 1642, pirate mollie wrote:I still think majiffy is town. it freaks me out when he vote parks and then disappears cos this is what he did in the only game where he managed to sneak past me as scum. there are 6 players on this site I expect a lot from in order to townread them and he is one of them cos I have shared enough meta knowledge with them that they could get past my meta reads. majiffy is at the top of the list.

Explain this discrepancy, please.

I do can not give a 100% clearance of majiffy without mod clearance. I have no role to do that I am going by what we have shared in the game he reads as town

but I want more from him.

let's talk about your major hedging of ns whom you said you could read. but I bet you don't wanna

Then why did you say you could guarantee your read of Majiffy?

And you're going to have to show where I hedged my read of NS first. I already showed where you did.

p-edit: Why is the word freak out significant to you? It isn't to me.

In post 1662, AngryPidgeon wrote:Mollie, keep making posts because each one you make makes me townread you harder.

I'm not even going to respond to you. qwints is obvscum and if you don't see it I can't help you.

In post 1657, Wisdom wrote:"put himself front and central"
How the fuck did he do that? You have yet to explain that to me.

yes. I did

if you did not understand my answer at the time then why are you bringing this up now. we went a couple of rounds over this and now you are bringing it up opportunistically to...do what. set me up as lynchbait? or cover?

you did this shit in polygamy I am sooooooooo not going to fall for it again

I swear to fucking god the only people who read me as scum are retards and scum. when you are town you know the difference.

VOTE: wis

In post 1665, Wisdom wrote:qwints is obvscum and if you don't see it I can't help you.

Oh my god.

Could you be any more annoying?

Once again... you cannot lynch wisdom today.

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In post 1668, Amrun wrote:Once again... you cannot lynch wisdom today.

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What if I try really really hard?

no mollie, when YOU are town you sense I'm town in an instant. Yet now I'm probably playing my most obvtown game ever and you keep claiming you don't have a townread on me. Go tell these tales to someone else.

In post 1669, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1668, Amrun wrote:Once again... you cannot lynch wisdom today.

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What if I try really really hard?

Even then.

What is your opinion on 2-scum teams?

Same question to mollie. What is your opinion on 2-scum teams?

Ok, serious face.

Grimgroove is scum. I really don't even need to explain that fact to anyone.

Enomis is scum. That wall post was shit and its obvious.

Someone else out there is scum and I don't give a shit right now. Can we lynch Enomis today?

Also no you didn't explain why Venmar would somehow draw attention by using a reaction test. That's nonsense.