Mini 1,573: How Do You Want to Die? (Game over!)

[Snork]

Lots of wine.

I have no idea what this means.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

goodmorning (3): Antihero, Jingle, Snork
Jingle (2): Titus, bubbajack8
Not voting (4): goodmorning, Squirrel Girl, Dr Pants, Guyett

With

9

players alive, it takes

5

votes to lynch a player.

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2014-06-22 21:14:12).

[Snork]

good lord SC, rockin the VCs. Are you bored? I think this calls for additional entertainment.

I could claim a power role next if you like. Or maybe serial killer. Mmm yeah I like that idea too.

[Jingle]

Hey Titus, your bullshit is showing. Also, I wouldn't say that you convinced town not to make you Suicide so much as you shouted things until I gave up on rational t

And your scum misreps are showing too. You're quoting something that isn't a contradiction at all, and are then acting like you have a case closed type situation. The statements from Titus can perfectly coexist, in fact they support each other and make her look like she's being fairly honest and open about how she interacts with theory buddies.

Yes, her post saying I never bus even when it's optimal play and her post saying that she busses scumbuddies when it benefits her don't contradict each other. It's nice to see you defending her.

Titus, I'm still waiting for you to address 1178. I even brought it up again in 1594.

Interesting. Bubba, gm, titus, pants all think I'm scum and yet are not voting for me because "Jingle is a stronger read"? Bullshit. That is so much bullshit. His ISO is townier than mine but this is the better lynch option for scum because flipping me would give town too much info.

Are you saying conftown Pants is lying?

Jingle is scum. Near unanimous. You can be playing like an idiot.

Near unanimous? With 2 people voting for me? Then why haven't you gotten me lynched yet. You appear to be trying so damned hard.

If I do get lynched today, Snork is conftown. Titus and GM are scum. Imma gonna wait and see if Titus ever responds to the fact that she's been lying hard about my meta case, but otherwise I don't think I need to put more effort in.

[Jingle]

good lord SC, rockin the VCs. Are you bored? I think this calls for additional entertainment.

I could claim a power role next if you like. Or maybe serial killer. Mmm yeah I like that idea too.

I'd like to claim Cultafia with Snork. We killed ika and recruited Pants last night. The game is unwinnable for town.

[Snork]

How does your lynch conf me at all?

[Titus]

@Jingle, I'd refer you back to the first time you asked those questions wiht that meta case. Your whole case is meta.

If you inist, I'll number that five times. But in the interest of expediency, been there done that.

[Guyett]

I should be conf town to snork because snork is still alive today....

[Guyett]

@Anti I need to have a chat with GM first before I pursue that wagon

[Snork]

I should be conf town to snork because snork is still alive today....

oh yeah that's true too.

[Snork]

Guyett, what are you thinking here? With the info that we currently have, do you think bubba is scum just because of the placement on the wagon? Or is there something else?

Also, thoughts on the Jingle wagon - have you had a chance to ISO HighShroomish at all? I'm extremely paranoid about .. well several people. Particularly, paranoid that Jingle is town and that Anti may not be. My reads have also been particularly shit lately and it's pissing me off. What do you think?

[Jingle]

Because I'm 100% sure you're town at this point, and they will be able to trust me should they lynch me. Lynching you would be incredibly stupid.

Also, Anti is town. His frustration with Titus was genuine. His reads make sense. He's an uncc'd powerrole in a setup that seems balanced with that role. Take your pick.

[Jingle]

Needs a rope:
Titus-

Spoiler: Titus is Scum!

I agree with Pants. Hammer postponed until after thorough reading which is after work meeting.

Ika y u want hammer so early?

These two are not from the same mindset. The first is fine with a hammer. The second is not.

R, with that piss poor hammer you think that all scum were on your wagon.

SSK hammered as soon as the ika counterwagon picked up steam. There's two explanations for this. The first one which SSK should have claimed with his post if town (and I'm withholding to see if he says it). The second is that SSK is scum with ika and came out of the woodwork to ensure a mislynch and give ika the opportunity to talk himself out of this.

Setting up IKA for SSK's scummy behavior. Making assumptions about SSK's motivation. Tying SSK and IKA together. She also never returned to this 'motivation SSK could claim' and instead tunnel visioned on IKA, ignoring SSK for the entirety of the next day.

Ok, a reread is in order. If scum killed GreyICE, there must have been a reason for it.

The only names I see relevant in checking GreyICE's ISO are Bubba, Burning and Antihero. It's quite a small ISO which works well to send a message, I guess... but what. Seeing interactions with Grey would be more helpful, but that means a reread with the assumption Grey was town.

Ika/SSK are probably scum and this kill is an excellent kill to divert suspicion. But wifom, it's an excellent kill to frame them too. I want to see ika's reaction while I focus on my reread.

VOTE: ika

"Analysis. My Analysis is Worthless! Vote: Not the player I'm suspicious of who just quickhammered!"

It's quite possible a good chunk were on the wagon. However, it is obvious that the scumteam that Reinoe was putting forth was wrong.

That being said Pants, I was looking for a damn good reason for ignoring obvscum behavior and doing what I want isn't it.

This is seeming like the twilight zone game. Y'all are fixated on the cheerleaders while the Gorilla just wanders around in the middle of everything.

VOTE: ika

That last second hammer looked like it was to protect ika. SSK might have drawn short straw to hammer but I want to crack ika today to get certain as to his alignment.

Really, this is getting tedious. I love the fact that you reference the Gorilla (SSK) and still don't vote for him.

God damn it... Site ate my post. I will try again tomorrow

but for ika 211 and 218 are far from fucking passive and you know it. I just am trying to break my death tunnel habit but you make it so fucking hard. I will not tunnel...

My name is Titus and I am a member of Tunnelers Anonymous. I have gone 0 games without tunneling as town....

The last sentence is incredibly manipulative. "Ignore my tunneling because I tunnel as town." You tunnel as both alignments, your defense is null as fuck.

Substance while I didn't define it like a five year old becausse I suppose you have a dictionary means anything that would logically help determine alignment. That definition doesn't change.


Ika, don't act like you never voted on a gambit. BE should have unvoted but the site was sucking. Thst being said, he does need to explain why Pants and Snork is TvT in yhe next post.

Goodmorning, please do something other than buddy me.

Goodmorning stop buddying me. I'm not going to scumread you for it, but stop doing it. Seriously, where is the paranoia? Where is the town suspicion? Why do you just dismiss GM here? It's posts like this that make me think Titus and GM are a scumteam.

i'm playing with a bunch of people who should know me pretty well, but then cram their heads up their asses and act like they don't know me at all.

This is precisely how I feel about Jingle's read on me. He has Geology trip and Upick - Suicide bomber and still gets it wrong...why?

First, I was semi right. We've played a couple of marathons together. Second, how the fuck should I know you well enough to meta read you off of a game where I confbiased my way to a loss with you scum and a game where I replaced into scum after you replaced into conftown. This seriously needs the rope.

Hi. Ika's scum now.
VOTE: ika

...alright, i'm cool with killing this now.

*gulp* I agree with this and that scares me.

VOTE: SSK

Seriously? You're afraid that your 'scumread' is voting obvscum? I know you're familiar with this concept called bussing. It's not a new thing.

SSK- I don't think I need to explain this. He's scum, and caught.

I went ahead and bolded the meta part of my case. See if you can find it among the non-meta part of my "twisted meta case." Then stop lying.

[Guyett]

Guyett, what are you thinking here? With the info that we currently have, do you think bubba is scum just because of the placement on the wagon? Or is there something else?

Also, thoughts on the Jingle wagon - have you had a chance to ISO HighShroomish at all? I'm extremely paranoid about .. well several people. Particularly, paranoid that Jingle is town and that Anti may not be. My reads have also been particularly shit lately and it's pissing me off. What do you think?

He ran faith plus one... He should reread that game.

Jingle may be scum, I want to look at that wagon and the gm wagon.


There has to be at least 1 scum within {SG, Jingle and Bubba}, maybe even 2.

I don't like the way bubba is seeing scum in everything I've been doing when all I've done is troll a lot, disagree with the SSK wagon, lolhammer SSK and not let the Jingle lynch happen in like a fucking page.

[bubbajack8]

Guyett, what are you thinking here? With the info that we currently have, do you think bubba is scum just because of the placement on the wagon? Or is there something else?

Also, thoughts on the Jingle wagon - have you had a chance to ISO HighShroomish at all? I'm extremely paranoid about .. well several people. Particularly, paranoid that Jingle is town and that Anti may not be. My reads have also been particularly shit lately and it's pissing me off. What do you think?

He ran faith plus one... He should reread that game.

Jingle may be scum, I want to look at that wagon and the gm wagon.


There has to be at least 1 scum within {SG, Jingle and Bubba}, maybe even 2.

I don't like the way bubba is seeing scum in everything I've been doing when all I've done is troll a lot, disagree with the SSK wagon, lolhammer SSK and not let the Jingle lynch happen in like a fucking page.

I don't remember you being like this in Faith+1.

[Guyett]

What was I like in faith +1 then?

[Snork]

tbh, I've really liked what SG has been posting. I had very mixed feelings about BE.

This is kind of where I'm at right now:

Town {Anti, Pants, Guyett}
?? {Jingle, SG}
Scum {bubba, gm, Titus}

As far as strength, gm/titus is a package deal for me. If one is town, the other probably is too. Does that make sense to you G or am I setting myself up for failure here? My read on bubba has also fluctuated quite a bit. I worry that it's just OMGUS but I have a hard time separating that since I feel like I've done a lot for my team and anyone pushing me must be scum. The read is mainly coming from his reactions to GM getting wagoned. I mentioned the paranoia about Jingle, especially with the latest explosion about GM.

I honestly feel like I've solved it here, bubba/gm/titus. I don't know where else to look. I could sub out bubba for SG I think, but more and more I am starting to dislike the Jingle wagon. The case on HighShroomish was never strong enough to grab my interest, and the case on Jingle is even weaker. I just don't like it.

p-edit: the only difference between here and F+1 imo is that there, he was actually lynched. Comparing the behavior pre-lynch is the same play.

[Snork]

Well actually.. I was gonna amend that to say that if gm is town, Titus is probably still scum cuz of the hard defense/white knighting, and gm hasn't done anything to dispel suspicions on Titus, and then I realized that probably makes gm more likely scum than Titus, but if gm IS scum then Titus definitely is. I think that's really the only thing I have for those two. If either flip town, the other is still scum cuz there's no reason to behave this way between two townies who have had very little interaction otherwise during the game, so I'm inclined to believe if there's a town among them, they aren't both.

[Guyett]

Don't think I got lynched in F+1

[Snork]

Don't think I got lynched in F+1

Oh. I thought you did. Still, looks like the same attitude to me.

[Dr Pants]

snork, no offense meant here, but you put a lot of faith in your ability to meta read people. Is this how you typically read people? Because one thing I'm noticing, all the people you are familiar with are in your town reads, and the rational behind it is their meta.

[Snork]

snork, no offense meant here, but you put a lot of faith in your ability to meta read people. Is this how you typically read people? Because one thing I'm noticing, all the people you are familiar with are in your town reads, and the rational behind it is their meta.

And if they were playing to their scum meta, I'd be pushing their lynch with everything I've got. Ask them. They know that have and would.

[bubbajack8]

What was I like in faith +1 then?

In Faith PLus 1 you actually gave useful things. You actually had a full fledged read list with reasons.

You gave unofficial votecounts.

you NEVER unvoted at L-1 for space, you were ALWAYS confident in your reads. You did however unvote at L-2 for better wagon analysis, but did not derp hammer that person.

You gave cases.

You have done none of those things here. You haven't given a long reads list with reasons, you've been rather uncommitial, had the derp ahmmer, and have unvoted multiple times. YOu haven't posted a single votecount. You actually seemed to try in Faith PLus 1. You're not giving me the same impression here....

[Guyett]

VOTE: bubba


I will not move my vote, this is a 1v1 now

[Guyett]

Either I am scum or he is.