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In post 1646, Spiffeh wrote:Guys Cephrir is scummy who's with me?

Idk

Probably me

In post 1651, DiamondSentinel wrote:Probably me

scum?

*votes ds*

In post 1649, Spiffeh wrote:

In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.

are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me

Was this directed at me?

yep

In post 1642, Imperium wrote:also while you're expanding on reads could you explain what that camntsuki read was about?

Slot went from zero to pushing a BS policy lynch on my top town read, and some pushes that don't deserve the title of scum-hunting.

In post 1653, Cephrir wrote:

In post 1649, Spiffeh wrote:

In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.

are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me

Was this directed at me?

yep

Ok

Why was that the first thing you jumped to?

@Farside:

These are some examples of DS posts that I was talking about in that paragraph on him.

In post 837, DiamondSentinel wrote:@MoI

Setup speculation typically works well. Shos' game was an entirely different situation (and still bullshit. It was borderline bastard. "You are unable to be killed [except by these sources which you have no idea about]". There's a difference between swingy and lying to people)

Additionally, there are a variety of situations that Farside's claim could turn up badly. One that I'm thinking of is a ludicrous claim that she then points back to it and says "see, I was already talking about it from day 1" (I don't know exactly how it would work. I'm quite terrible at lying or figuring out ways in which someone would lie in some made-up, hypothetical situation)

This is talking about you (who claimed you had a flavor that might be contrary to expectations). As scum, I don't think it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to talk about how maybe your Negative Utility Claim that wasn't a negative utility claim at all (but if there's an expectation for him to be active I can see him filling up his posts with stuff like this), whereas I don't understand why he's talking about it now as town when he's continually reminded us that he will be alive Day 3/4 (and thus isn't worried about dying before rooting this out).

In post 861, DiamondSentinel wrote:Man, this wagon really doesn't have any resistance.

And hadn't it popped up in like two days?

We need a counter wagon...

This is an extraordinarily weak resistance to a wagon that wasn't particularly driven in the first place; the picture that I have in my mind when reading this post is the Snarky wagon being a small child pushing around one of those toy mowers with the plastic balls bouncing around and DiamondSentinel being a drunk parent on the front lawn mumbling something unintelligible to himself before passing out yet again, and is a good example of what I mean by "active, present, but not really giving a fuck". He's around. He's commenting on it. But it's pretty clear to me that it doesn't care.

In post 925, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 923, Imperium wrote:and i think this is the only player that i've played with that this holds true for
if i have a bunch of townreads elsewhere that i feel good about then sure it's snarky time but otherwise probably not, regardless of case

Can you read me, Nacho/Tammy (I don't know which one this is). I don't think you can. Very few can read me consistently.

And then instead of commenting on the Snarky wagon, DS just wants to know whether we can read him or not.
Who cares? What does this have to do with anything going on in the thread right now?

In post 1325, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1315, BROseidon wrote:

In post 1313, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1310, BROseidon wrote:

In post 1308, DiamondSentinel wrote:Yeah, time to start playing. You've had a slight issue with this in both games I've been in with you (and I don't really care about your excuse for it)

I mean, I am playing?

"You don't play mafia the way I think everyone should play it, therefore you aren't playing it."

You know what happens when everyone spams up the thread with incoherent walls of shit? The game becomes massively unfun.

So I'll leave that to you while I both don't shit up the thread and end up with better reads than you (assuming you are, in fact, town, which I'm not particularly compelled to believe at this point).

Actually, I was more talking about how you have an issue with lurking. Not like PV does. But still, it's an issue at times (again, don't care about the reasons)

I'm not sure whether to respond with condescending snark or actual content, so you get both.

1) And I'm still a better player than you. What does that say about your spamming up the thread every fucking game
2) A certain portion of the game needs to lurk at various parts of the game, especially in a large. Lurking with 5-7 people left? Yeah, problem. Lurking because it's day 1 of a large game and people are spamming everywhere and you want day 1 to not hit 100 pages

again

? Correct.

Not to mention contextual lurking based on PR-play and mixups for PR play, but I don't really think you have the nuance to employ those tactics so I'll leave it at that.

I thought you said you were going to be snarky. Not facetious. The fact that you would put 2 completely different playstyles up beside each other and said objectively that one is better than the other is ridiculous. I won't get into why it's ridiculous now, but expect a nice long rant post-game.

Also, you lurking will not stop a game from reaching 100 pages on its own. If it's going to reach that far, then give content so that people can actually read you. Cool? Cool.

This is the "BRO, produce content so I can read you!" post. It was a strange post for him to make because while he has been posting a lot, sure, but actual content or even questioning that he's produced has been pretty close to absent.

My dislike of Snarky grows from him jumping off of me not long ago. He'd been vote-parked there forever, and it seemed like he chased a real weak push which makes me think he bailed to avoid VCA

You didn't dislike Snarky before that?

I did, but he dropped a tier (See my earlier post), from that

OK. Keep elaborating on reads!

In post 1655, Spiffeh wrote:

In post 1653, Cephrir wrote:

In post 1649, Spiffeh wrote:

In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.

are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me

Was this directed at me?

yep

Ok

Why was that the first thing you jumped to?

why shouldn't it be?

Because that's a really arbitrary and quick conclusion to draw based on that one post

Maybe you're nervous??!?!!?!?!?

861 was a joke post, Imperium. It was right after someone said commented about how someone was going to complain that there was no resistance, no counterwagon, and it popped up really quickly

These are some examples of things that bothered me about MoI:

In post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also the Snarky wagon dissipating on Nachos cute but irrelevant “Oh, no-one can read him” tale I think will be a great place to start looking for bussers who hopped at the first sign of an easy exit.

I thought it was weird that Magna commented that the wagon on Snarky dissipated but didn't actually try to stop the push against it; he framed the wagon dissipating as "welp, Nacho said that he didn't think no one could read him and thus he became unlynchable". I didn't understand why he moved from the camntsuki wagon from the Snarky wagon when he was pushing that he did know how to read Snarky well and he did legitimately feel that Snarky was scum while the camntsuki push looked more like this:

In post 1091, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1066, camntsuki wrote:Dear townies.

This game is already intolerable, and it's only day 1.
Please, for Cheetory, lets purge.

Agreed.

VOTE: Camnt

In post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1062, camntsuki wrote:People who "project town" end up dead, mostly. And most endgames are a bunch of lurkertown and a bunch of scumzors, and the games suck and scum win.

Complains about how it is Pro-scum to not “project Town”. Proudly states it is what they are doing.

Lynch away!

In post 1095, camntsuki wrote:w/e. I'm going to bed, but if this wagon builds steam:
We are Clifford, The big Red Dog, and we are Vanilla.

g'night! Lynch us if you want!

A VT claim with like 4 total votes?

More Camnt votes. This needs to happen today.

In post 1105, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1103, Grib wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: camntsuki

This is 5 of the required 10.

Come on people let's get this done!

And while the rhetoric of believing that camntsuki was very strongly scum was there, Magna's usual pushing scum cases is normally more actual casing and far less showmanship, which was why I was saying it didn't really feel like he actually believed it.

These are some examples of things that bothered me about MoI:

In post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also the Snarky wagon dissipating on Nachos cute but irrelevant “Oh, no-one can read him” tale I think will be a great place to start looking for bussers who hopped at the first sign of an easy exit.

I thought it was weird that Magna commented that the wagon on Snarky dissipated but didn't actually try to stop the push against it; he framed the wagon dissipating as "welp, Nacho said that he didn't think no one could read him and thus he became unlynchable". I didn't understand why he moved from the camntsuki wagon from the Snarky wagon when he was pushing that he did know how to read Snarky well and he did legitimately feel that Snarky was scum while the camntsuki push looked more like this:

In post 1091, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1066, camntsuki wrote:Dear townies.

This game is already intolerable, and it's only day 1.
Please, for Cheetory, lets purge.

Agreed.

VOTE: Camnt

In post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1062, camntsuki wrote:People who "project town" end up dead, mostly. And most endgames are a bunch of lurkertown and a bunch of scumzors, and the games suck and scum win.

Complains about how it is Pro-scum to not “project Town”. Proudly states it is what they are doing.

Lynch away!

In post 1095, camntsuki wrote:w/e. I'm going to bed, but if this wagon builds steam:
We are Clifford, The big Red Dog, and we are Vanilla.

g'night! Lynch us if you want!

A VT claim with like 4 total votes?

More Camnt votes. This needs to happen today.

In post 1105, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1103, Grib wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: camntsuki

This is 5 of the required 10.

Come on people let's get this done!

And while the rhetoric of believing that camntsuki was very strongly scum was there, Magna's usual pushing scum cases is normally more actual casing and far less showmanship, which was why I was saying it didn't really feel like he actually believed it.

In post 1663, DiamondSentinel wrote:861 was a joke post, Imperium. It was right after someone said commented about how someone was going to complain that there was no resistance, no counterwagon, and it popped up really quickly

Missed that context, sorry.

Tis fine, my bretheren and sisteren!

In post 442, hiplop wrote:

In post 440, Grib wrote:Hi Cheeto.

Help me read hiplop. I think directly interacting with him is going to fuel any potential conf-biasing.

Spoiler: mhm

Ily

In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.

are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me

Wait ... this is the slot you participated in downplaying my scum read on for a not-insignificant amount of time.

And he looks at you sideways after replacing in and suddenly that slot is now possible scum?

In post 1519, SnarkySnowman wrote:VOTE: kdowns

Why are you tunneling him so hard?

Farside,
Snarky is lock town to you because of this post?

In post 1662, Spiffeh wrote:Because that's a really arbitrary and quick conclusion to draw based on that one post

Maybe you're nervous??!?!!?!?!?

is it? you asked who was with you and you don't even seem to be done reading

if anything, that seems like a quick conclusion to draw.

In post 1669, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.

are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me

Wait ... this is the slot you participated in downplaying my scum read on for a not-insignificant amount of time.

And he looks at you sideways after replacing in and suddenly that slot is now possible scum?

*shrug*

maybe maybe not

wasnt really thinking about who he replaced

@Imperium:

Honestly, one of the reasons I think MoI is pretty towny is because he's actually explaining out his reads a bit.

Which contrasts pretty hard with my dislike for hiplop who been a whole lot of nothing and naked votes

In post 1672, Cephrir wrote:*shrug*

maybe maybe not

wasnt really thinking about who he replaced