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oh and yeah UNVOTE: i guess

This isn't a tunnel it's a fucking guilty Dong you're probably scum just for taking my vote on Infinity way out of context.

what the fuck are you tslking about thats what i meant anyways i can read holy shit

So wtf is going on

Day 2
Dong crumbs tracker
Gamma recognizes it and doesnt pressure him instead he votes Transcend.

Day 3
Gamma claims watcher with guilty on Infinity.
Dong backs down from his Tracker crumb.

@Infinity:Why target S_S over Transcend when you thought Transcned was such a widely read Town with a vig crumb?

In post 1545, Infinity 324 wrote: PEdit: yes jarjar, everyone but you townread s_s lol

MathBlade scumread him and i had a scumlean on him Day 1. Other then that noone really mentioned a townread on S_S as far as i remember.

Also this Variant of Absorber sounds very unlikely as you didnt mention it saying anything about absorbing a nightkill.
And why would you want to target possible Nightkilltargets with that variation of Absorber?
If Dong isnt Tracker then JarJar isnt a scumread so why do you want to shoot him?

Wait DONG CRUMBED TRACKER?
Can you quote this for me Manuel?

Dong never crumbed tracker.

I think it was a joke coupled coincidentally with a naked vote that could have been misinterpreted as a crumb.

@Something Smart / Dunnstral why are you both giving Manuel a seeming way out before he answers the question?

I don't think he did but my thoughts are irrelevant what matters is what Manuel was thinking if he was or if he was trying to get Infinity out of the lynch or if this is Role Madness or what.

In post 1627, iraonavp wrote:

In post 1624, XnadrojX wrote:UNVOTE: Infinity

OK, will devote him once everyone e had a chance to chime in.

Seems like a scum-aligned unvote.

"scum-aligned unvote"

Can you not, like, throw such blatant BS like that.

i never crumbed tracker

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In post 1078, Donempire wrote:VOTE: jarjar
interesting choice of nightkill. very interesting.

In post 1658, MathBlade wrote:@Something Smart

/ Dunnstral

why are you

both

giving Manuel a seeming way out before he answers the question?

How is it giving me a way out when he seems to be the only one smart enough to know what i am talking about? Looking at Dongs day 2 posts it should have been obvious what i am talking about btw. Question is why didnt you do that?

In post 1658, MathBlade wrote: I don't think he did but my thoughts are irrelevant what matters is what Manuel was thinking if he was or if he was trying to get Infinity out of the lynch or if this is Role Madness or what.

So not wanting to speedlynch for a 3rd time is apperently trying to get Infinity out of the lynch?
I would have voted Infinity in my last post if there werent ppl that like to quickhammer in this game btw.
Infinity is lynched today why would i try to oppose that after a Watcher claim he himself confirmed and him claiming an outlandish variation of a non standard role?

Because it would create a false dichotomy of who to lynch. If you said dong claimed fracker and stuck with it then I would have expected you to push him after we had a list of roles announced and fracker was not on that list. Pretty much with all the power roles known (assuming Gamma town infinity scum for the moment) I don't see a 4 PR town game. The way you said Dong crumbed tracker yet try to pair Gamma and Dong is all kinds of weird.

Then you say you don't believe the infinity claim. If you are seriously suggesting Gamma and Dong bussed infinity with only a select few (me and Dunn come to mind) that makes no sense at all.

Tracker* Excuse my autocorrect.

Thirdly I don't subscribe to the OMG I found a PR let's depants them mentality. I say just enough so people understand the perspective but not enough to give something to scum. And no. It is not obvious because in 1660 Dong never crumbed tracker.

The question becomes as a claimed BP why you never suspected Dong or Gamma this entire day should you have truly suspected Dong crumbed tracker.

You are asking me to believe that you didn't suspect an issue and ask questions of Dong or me when:

1) An infinite shot Jailkeeper
2) A ??? Shot Watcher (don't answer this is for demonstrating a case)
3) A ??? Shot BP (don't answer this is for demonstrating a case)
4) Mysterious role of Awesome
5) A ??? Shot trackerb(don't answer this is for demonstrating a case)

-unknown
Absorber ??


And you never once questioned Dong or me or even seemed to have thought about it until the post you claim incorrectly Dong crumbed tracker

Instead you come out voting JarJar drinks and don't question Gamma.

By having others answer I was robbed the reaction of seeing if you stuck with your "I thought Dong was tracker" claim and if it was a natural thought progression. Instead I see someone who isn't really analysizing at all.

Going to bed manuel needs prodding.

This setup has been reviewed for balance and normalcy by mastin2, TellTaleHeart and Cogito Ergo Sum.

In post 1662, Manuel87 wrote:

In post 1078, Donempire wrote:VOTE: jarjar
interesting choice of nightkill. very interesting.

In post 1658, MathBlade wrote:@Something Smart

/ Dunnstral

why are you

both

giving Manuel a seeming way out before he answers the question?

How is it giving me a way out when he seems to be the only one smart enough to know what i am talking about? Looking at Dongs day 2 posts it should have been obvious what i am talking about btw. Question is why didnt you do that?

In post 1658, MathBlade wrote: I don't think he did but my thoughts are irrelevant what matters is what Manuel was thinking if he was or if he was trying to get Infinity out of the lynch or if this is Role Madness or what.

So not wanting to speedlynch for a 3rd time is apperently trying to get Infinity out of the lynch?
I would have voted Infinity in my last post if there werent ppl that like to quickhammer in this game btw.
Infinity is lynched today why would i try to oppose that after a Watcher claim he himself confirmed and him claiming an outlandish variation of a non standard role?

In post 1654, Manuel87 wrote:So wtf is going on

Day 2
Dong crumbs tracker
Gamma recognizes it and doesnt pressure him instead he votes Transcend.

Day 3
Gamma claims watcher with guilty on Infinity.
Dong backs down from his Tracker crumb.

@Infinity:Why target S_S over Transcend when you thought Transcned was such a widely read Town with a vig crumb?

In post 1545, Infinity 324 wrote: PEdit: yes jarjar, everyone but you townread s_s lol

MathBlade scumread him and i had a scumlean on him Day 1. Other then that noone really mentioned a townread on S_S as far as i remember.

Also this Variant of Absorber sounds very unlikely as you didnt mention it saying anything about absorbing a nightkill.
And why would you want to target possible Nightkilltargets with that variation of Absorber?
If Dong isnt Tracker then JarJar isnt a scumread so why do you want to shoot him?

Ok. I though s_s was widely townread and therefore a likely NK target. Apparently I was wrong, I don't know what gave me that impression.

I wanted to target potential NK targets because it's harder to predict the actions of town PRs. Plus it gives me a chance to get a doc or watcher shot.

Why do I want to shoot jarjar? Because I think transcend was shot for a reason...

Can anyone explain in simple words what MathBlade is talking about? Because i dont get it and i dont care enough about their nonsense.
If you have questions ask them and dont make a riddle out of it where i have to guess what you are saying.

@Infinity: If you expected something like a Watcher why would you want to target the same player as the watcher?
Your role isnt very likely to be believed so risking that seems rather odd.

I didn't expect a watcher. I mainly wanted to get the mafia NK because that is easiest to predict. Doctor and watcher were another possible benefit I considered, but watcher is a rare role because of how powerful it is.

I mean I guess you're right that a watcher would be a downside not a upside but I wasn't really thinking of that

Okay so lets say we consider the option of leaving you alive to prove yourself with a vig-shot.
Who do we lynch today?
Who do you shoot if the lynch flips town?
Who do you shoot if the lynch flips scum?