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Actually I don't know about Drone. I don't take his opposition to the wagon as towniness even if HS is town. I retract that.

You don't have to, if you don't follow HS's frustration is screaming town to me.
So yeah, let's not lynch them.

In post 1649, MortFeld wrote:If HS is town, then Drone and Road are likely town.

Does the reading of Arc+HS+TF only make sense if Arc is protecting HS? Like, I think scum!Arc could still have been trying to work on two townies.

I don't see why Chaos looks so bad from 1582. Like, you did react pretty much the way he described and it looks bad. Obviously if you're lynched and flip town that's a place we can look.

I don't really feel like seeing HS hammered here when Arc and Nero are still absent.

UNVOTE:

i am not absent, I live in a different country and a complete different timezone and i have a day job. I usually catch up after my dinner.

Can someone explain why I'm at a loss if HS is town? My scum pool is like 7 people. Is this just because of the replacements or is there another reason this game feels so bad?

Pedit: you literally were absent, at the time HS was at L-1 you hadn't posted in a while/responded to Toto's condensed question. The word absent does not have negative connotations, unlike the word lurking which I didn't use.

In post 1653, MortFeld wrote:Can someone explain why I'm at a loss if HS is town? My scum pool is like 7 people. Is this just because of the replacements or is there another reason this game feels so bad?

Pedit: you literally were absent, at the time HS was at L-1 you hadn't posted in a while/responded to Toto's condensed question. The word absent does not have negative connotations, unlike the word lurking which I didn't use.

Didn't you read my previous post. I am busy. I wasn't around when HS was at L1 and even he is at L1 now, I wont hammer it because I no longer feel he is scum. Follow my conversations with HS & TF. I see things differently after long talk with them.

And that frustration self vote seems like, he is more town.

We aren't lynching HS today.

In post 1655, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 1653, MortFeld wrote:Can someone explain why I'm at a loss if HS is town? My scum pool is like 7 people. Is this just because of the replacements or is there another reason this game feels so bad?

Pedit: you literally were absent, at the time HS was at L-1 you hadn't posted in a while/responded to Toto's condensed question. The word absent does not have negative connotations, unlike the word lurking which I didn't use.

Didn't you read my previous post. I am busy. I wasn't around when HS was at L1 and even he is at L1 now, I wont hammer it because I no longer feel he is scum. Follow my conversations with HS & TF. I see things differently after long talk with them.

I don't dispute that you were busy, nor did I ask why you didn't hammer. What are you responding to? Here's the quote

In post 1649, MortFeld wrote: I don't really feel like seeing HS hammered here when Arc and Nero are still absent.

I see literally no reason why you'd feel the need to defend. This isn't even directly about you, the point was that I think there's reason for the day to continue (i.e. for me to unvote HS) because you and Nero have more to say. Also because HS is probably town.

HS is not at L-1 right now btw.

In post 1655, ArcAngel9 wrote:Follow my conversations with HS & TF. I see things differently after long talk with them.

How exactly did this happen? What changed from the time you SRd both of them to the time you TRd both of them?

@Mort-Whats your read on Choas?

In post 1600, MortFeld wrote:You said that you saw Arc as mediating between two people, which is a town thing to do.

Not really. Its alot like scum knowing its a TvT fight and calling it TvT.

In post 1625, Shadow_step wrote:Why exactly are we lynching a claimed VT?

Why exactly shouldn't we lynch a claimed VT? TBF I'm like 1-1 with the tell kinda thing.

p-edit. HS? I must have missed HS claiming and I thought you meant RK.

I'm still pretty creeped out that RK was calling me town so earlier when I had yet to do much yet.

In post 1133, Road Kamelot wrote:For one calling me in 1040 misrepping when it was me misreading.

How was Mort supposed to know you were "misreading"?

Also don't really understand why she wasn't voting Drone.

In post 1660, Nero Cain wrote:@Mort-Whats your read on Choas?

Not sure about Chaos. 1479 as a reaction test is plausible, but what I've been wondering is this - there's already enough stuff on HS, why would you need to manufacture more with that kind of reaction test? Almost like Chaos felt like he needed a super original reason to vote HS, so he set up a trap. Looks overly self-aware, that kind of reasoning isn't necessary to justify an HS vote. This is assuming HS is town obviously, I have a hard time seeing Chaos as scum if HS is scum.

Also Chaos is not playing anything like he did in 1833 where he was good town nighkilled night 1, and apparently is playing like he did as scum in the newbie with HS.

Issue with the scum!Chaos theory is the awful wagon on Chaos starting from 1526, then 1542 1544 and 1561. It's so gross that I struggle to see how it couldn't be scum motivated, and why would scum bring attention to a scum buddy like that? Obviously doesn't rule out scum!Chaos by any means but it makes me second guess.

VOTE: Arc

I like my vote here until I'm satisfied with how Arc explains both the breadcrumbed suspicion into wagon on Chaos and how she magically went from scumreading HS and TF to townreading them. Interesting how having inconsistent reads is a trait shared by both Arc and TB.

In post 1660, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1600, MortFeld wrote:You said that you saw Arc as mediating between two people, which is a town thing to do.

Not really. Its alot like scum knowing its a TvT fight and calling it TvT.

I'm not making a judgment here until I hear Arc's explanation. The quote from me is out of context though, I don't think mediating is an especially townie thing to do but I was trying to explore Toto's townread of Arc, which itself was out of context. Mediating between two former (former as of like, 100 posts) scum reads is especially odd behavior from a townie.

Damn i wish yall had lynched me then, why did my apology garner all these unvotes

I mean not really bc wincon and all that and not dying is better than dying but i was really just trying to get my reads out b4 death

Ill vote Arc at deadline if its needed, well ill vote whoever at deadline if needed but id prefer Arc over HS only bc HS is town and i have literally no read on arc

Have you read the Arc/HS/TF discussion, Road?

Im still sick and its extremely hard to focus but I wanna try and catch up so you guys know where I am.. so don't expect good thinking here as my brain is kinda not wanting to exist but Ill do my best to try and contribute.

discuss!

Why rk?

If HS is town, one of chaos and uzi are probably scum. Discus

Im sorta in a rut right now.. Im just too uncertain who red is.. I have eliminated some people but Its really hard to work out the others..

This is my green pool right now;
Human Sequencer
MortFeld
Lil Uzi Vert
TwoFace

Which leaves 2/3rds of town unaccounted for.. and thats kinda sucky. Sigh..

Naomi - you've done 180s on mort so why is mort town now.

Also why is uzi town?

In post 1672, TwoFace wrote:Naomi - you've done 180s on mort so why is mort town now.

Also why is uzi town?

gone over mort before want the reasons go hunting.
Uzi's content has been pretty consistant imo and definately looks like game solving which is very much a townie trait.

In post 1669, TwoFace wrote:Why rk?

Why not RK?

also I don't like

Ill vote Arc at deadline if its needed, well ill vote whoever at deadline if needed but id prefer Arc over HS only bc HS is town and i have literally no read on arc

Arc is town and HS *could be town* and all we have to do is listen to the scum.