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In post 1645, Lycanfire wrote: Boring: you said d7 was your top scumread so why are you making jaereed's flash wagon your alt wagon?

In post 1651, boring wrote:

In post 1645, Lycanfire wrote: Boring: you said d7 was your top scumread so why are you making jaereed's flash wagon your alt wagon?

I feel less conflicted about Kuroi.

@Klingoncelt, can you ghost-bubble me too? It sounds kind of fun.

In post 1544, Postie wrote:

In post 1540, Lycanfire wrote:no shit i was trying to play a certain way. the best use of my role is baiting an nk. anyone can do vca. i wasn't rushing to prove my town status was something i was doing as far back as day 1. i was hoping if scum knew i was playing conservatively they'd shoot me.

In a role madness game?

In post 1637, The DEO wrote:Regardless of Boring's alignment, scum are avoiding the boring wagon.

In post 1654, JaeReed wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68970

^ someone remind me (maybe after 24ish hours?) to review this? d7 scum, boring town. I think boring might have replaced into a scummy slot so I want to check how she handles it there as well. Didn't realize it ended -.- but I skimmed d7 there when the game was still ongoing after he flipped and thought the tone was diff to here. Just..can't look into it right now q.q new years stuff about to start.

In post 1636, RadiantCowbells wrote:

In Memory

Votecount 2.66:

Boring (7): Creeps20, KuroiXHF, The DEO, drealmerz7, Creature, Vaxkiller, Klingoncelt
KuroiXHF (2): JaeReed, Boring
LycanFire (1): ɀefiend
drealmersz7 (0):
Creature (0):
The DEO (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Vaxkiller (0):
Postie (0):
Creeps20 (0):
JaeReed (0):
ɀefiend (0):
Klingoncelt (0):
Deimos27 (0):

Not Voting: Postie, Gamma Emerald, Deimos27, LycanFire

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2017-01-03 12:00:00).

Still seeking replacements!

In post 1664, Postie wrote:If you can call two people a wagon then sure.

In post 1666, boring wrote:@Creeps20, Kuroi is the biggest not-boring wagon (with twice the numbers of any other counters!) Feel free to join us.

@mhsmith0, hi! Please be town.

@Everyone, Happy New Year from a boring drunk and her snoring spousyman! 2017 is a really funky number.

In post 1644, JaeReed wrote:

In post 1628, ɀefiend wrote:

In post 1615, JaeReed wrote:Postie I don't want an apathy lynch on someone I think might be town though. If we can turn this around we might be more likely to get a scum lynch. It's also worth thinking about whether RachMarie would replace out as scum in this situation. boring wanted to put something in the thread more than what RM had to make it worthwhile and idunno if their dropping off after that was more like, holidays and not knowing how to go hard to save the slot rather than a scum dropoff of "well I tried" y'know?

I actually tend to agree with KTS a lot and I think I should go for it if it's something we're both feeling because it's confirmation I'm on the right track and he's pre good at reading ppl as well.

{Postie, KC, DEO}
{Lycan, boring, Deimos}
{zefiend}
{Creature, drealmerz7, Vaxkiller}
{Creeps}
{Kuroi, Gamma}

Holy shit this post came out of nowhere. If I'm reading the tiers right, you have Lycanfire and boring as Town-leans?

Something is pinging me about your progression of these reads. Like, there's a lot of speculation involved:
- KC is being 100% truthful about KTS thing
- (presumably) buying Lycanfire's claim & story
- RM replacing out for strategic reasons
- boring's effort being AI

These are just the things that jump out at me so if you could clarify/explain, that'd be great. I'm going to ISO dive you in the meantime because honestly I've been skimming a lot of your posts (when the game was moving much faster).

I don't have set categories for the tiers. Higher up is the more townie I think someone is.

I think I'd talked about KC earlier, but boring summed that up nicely. KC's claim isn't something I would have imagined her to think up on her own, and she has convincingly given content that I believe has indeed come from KTS.

Lycanfire's claim...he hasn't really claimed as far as I'm concerned. Apart from the delayed death thing or w/e it was. My change on Lycanfire is that he's acting so damn disillusioned that it's actually making me think he's town by this stage. I have less confidence in that one because it's entirely tonal but I rarely see scum that can convincingly pull off the "let's antagonize the townies after my head further" line of attack that he's taking here. More often it comes from town that think they're being pushed by scum.

I'm not entirely sure what you're saying about the RM replacing out for strategic reasons. I'm saying that I believe it's more likely she's replaced out as town than scum, given she clearly thought she was being run up for being V/LA rather than for her content. As scum in that situation I'd expect some bullshitting to put out something, which RM would have an easier time doing than as town where she has to actually read what's being put in the game and think about what that means with regards to someone's alignment. That or more lurking while waiting out her lynch. It's obviously not a strong indicator because it could just boil down to her not wanting to play anymore as either alignment but it's a supporting factor.

If boring's effort alone was AI then I'd still think she's scum, because she put in that small amount of effort and dropped off. I'm reading her as a newbie that had one good scum game, replaced into a bad slot, and is trying to make the lynch at least worth something without thinking she can turn it around. It's the trying to make the lynch worth something that gave me pause to think about because as scum in a slot that you don't think you can save you don't want to draw more associates. You just want to go quietly into the night, so to speak, unless you think that putting out some good content will save you, in which case I'd expect boring to have fought this harder rather than put out some content then go "welp not much more to do here" attitude-wise.

In post 1670, Klingoncelt wrote:Happy New Year, everyone!