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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:59 am

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scum neighbor/neighborizers continue to crush it I see
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:02 am

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In post 1650, mhsmith0 wrote:scum neighbor/neighborizers continue to crush it I see
They aren't that common still. 25% in all completed mini normal games.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:03 am

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I think they're now something like 10-0 in 10/3 mini normals? iirc the only scum neighbor to lose in a mini normal since like 1400 was a multiball scum neighbor who got shot by the other scum team n1.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:04 am

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I was going to confirm the game as 10:3 town:scum but I thought that if the Cop/Rolecop died early it would give away the fact that there was a traitor so I changed it to what it is now so it would be possible for a SK.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:06 am

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from slightly out of date spreadsheet:

scum neighbor/neighborizer wins in

1460
1462
1463
1666
1685
1733
1897
and now 1938

might be missing somethign somewhere tho, my sheet is admittedly a bit out of date.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:06 am

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I like how Robb never posted in his neighbourhood.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:08 am

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In post 1655, Hopkirk wrote:I like how Robb never posted in his neighbourhood.
:lol: I thought it would get him lynched.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:09 am

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hmm

1511 too, so 9-0 I guess

(1687 was the scum neighborizer who died n1 in multiball, sorry bbt)
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:11 am

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In post 1655, Hopkirk wrote:I like how Robb never posted in his neighbourhood.
I wasn't online to post in it lol
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:11 am

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It's funny because I usually see neighbourizer as more likely to be scum than town but everyone says it is the other way around.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:14 am

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In post 1654, mhsmith0 wrote:from slightly out of date spreadsheet:

scum neighbor/neighborizer wins in

1460
1462
1463
1666
1685
1733
1897
and now 1938

might be missing somethign somewhere tho, my sheet is admittedly a bit out of date.
Those all mini normal? Cause I didn't see that many.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:15 am

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In post 1659, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It's funny because I usually see neighbourizer as more likely to be scum than town but everyone says it is the other way around.
Cause it is usually more likely to be town based on my search.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:15 am

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You played well as scum btw Rob, I only had you pinned because of lovelife. Reading your ISO made me think you were town again, you played well.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:16 am

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By my spreadsheet, mini normals have seen (through mini normal 1900):

10 town neighborizers (4-6 town record)
2 1-shot town neighborizers (0-2)

3 scum neighborizers (0-3 town record)
5 scum neighbors (0-5 town record)

That probably excludes some wonky setups (ditto neighbors that were also other PRs since data entry there gets weird), and I don't have stats on # of town neighbors, or how towns have done with hoods of all towns... but yeah town neighborizer is more common than scum neighborizer, but scum neighbors/neighborizers crush it and town ones not really. Hoods are, in general, materially proscum.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:17 am

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In post 1660, Robbnva wrote:
In post 1654, mhsmith0 wrote:from slightly out of date spreadsheet:

scum neighbor/neighborizer wins in

1460
1462
1463
1666
1685
1733
1897
and now 1938

might be missing somethign somewhere tho, my sheet is admittedly a bit out of date.
Those all mini normal? Cause I didn't see that many.
Yes, all mini normal, see
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549

(I'm sure it excludes some stuff, most notably mini normals that aren't 10/3 since I exclude those from my calcs, but yeah those all look like 10/3 games with scum neighbors or neighborizers)
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:27 am

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In post 1664, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 1660, Robbnva wrote:
In post 1654, mhsmith0 wrote:from slightly out of date spreadsheet:

scum neighbor/neighborizer wins in

1460
1462
1463
1666
1685
1733
1897
and now 1938

might be missing somethign somewhere tho, my sheet is admittedly a bit out of date.
Those all mini normal? Cause I didn't see that many.
Yes, all mini normal, see
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549

(I'm sure it excludes some stuff, most notably mini normals that aren't 10/3 since I exclude those from my calcs, but yeah those all look like 10/3 games with scum neighbors or neighborizers)
Weird on my phone I dont see that many games with neighborizer. Only found 5
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:54 am

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From my sheet:

Town neighborizer
1480
1535
1590
1636
1652
1740
1786
1839
1841
1844

Scum neighborizer
1463
1733
1897

Scum neighbor
1460
1462
1511
1666
1685
1733

Admittedly haven't verified so *shrugs*
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:41 am

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Oh I was just looking neighborizer
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:50 am

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Gg. Sorry for lynching you teech. I tried to give you a chance but you werent very forthcoming with responses
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:08 pm

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In post 1668, Fykus wrote:Gg. Sorry for lynching you teech. I tried to give you a chance but you werent very forthcoming with responses
Only issue I have with my lynch was 2 other people should have been lynched before me. It's all good though.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:45 pm

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GG mafia guys.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:46 pm

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In post 1653, iDanyboy wrote:I was going to confirm the game as 10:3 town:scum but I thought that if the Cop/Rolecop died early it would give away the fact that there was a traitor so I changed it to what it is now so it would be possible for a SK.
Good job. Thanks for running it.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:12 pm

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In post 1670, Havo wrote:GG mafia guys.
Maybe we can play a game and both be town.

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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:33 pm

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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:09 am

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In post 1635, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 1631, Robbnva wrote:
In post 1626, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:nobody questioned Hopkirk's claim, everyone believed he was BP.
I thought he was town BP lol
Who did you think was traitor, GR?
You. I thought you were BP traitor as that's pretty common.
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