Nancy, save your other Hydra. He's picking fights he might not win.
you crack me up elsa
-tor
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:59 pm
by Nancy Drew Shogunate
pls do a captain's log
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:00 pm
by CheekyTeeky
I miss RC :/
I mean I love Chara too but both would've been nice.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:11 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 1639, Nancy Drew Shogunate wrote:I know toogeloo from a game he replaced in and played wonderfully towny the whole time he was there. his posting here is bad. lacks content and passion. this is a slot that's active lurking btw, for those of you who like reading into shit like this.
Are you referring to Heroes Wanted, where I replaced in Day 3, literally read 1 player's ISO, and then told everyone I needed to be lynched Day 4 because I town read scum?
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:13 pm
by Toogeloo
If you'll refer to the sign up thread, I did preface my in to this game as it being a bad idea given my October workload. I'm keeping up quite well all things considered.
In post 1639, Nancy Drew Shogunate wrote:I know toogeloo from a game he replaced in and played wonderfully towny the whole time he was there. his posting here is bad. lacks content and passion. this is a slot that's active lurking btw, for those of you who like reading into shit like this.
Are you referring to Heroes Wanted, where I replaced in Day 3, literally read 1 player's ISO, and then told everyone I needed to be lynched Day 4 because I town read scum?
well I was defending you there, you didn't need to roll over like you did but your posting was towny
I read your ISO and changed my mind and think you're town now. it's happening to me a lot nowadays that I simply forget why I was townreading certain slots. I've agreed your early posting was towny, or at least I remember I was townreading it in my head, but then forgot it happened cause it's been days and you're never around. I'm burnt out but I'm trying.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:17 pm
by Toogeloo
My wiki is up to date for anyone who feels like they need to use a metal argument against me. Ive been playing quite a while though, so I'm pretty aware of my own meta and can shift it when necessary, so trust or distrust at your own peril. That being said, I was assigned the Innocent Child role in Meta Playstyle, which I thought was pretty funny.
One doesn't simply rush perfection. Plus I'm tired now and watching anime. Two things that may seem contradictory but you'd be surprised.
Will post one tommorow tho.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:26 pm
by Toogeloo
Anyone who cares, I rely largely on my gut and my child psychology degree for determining motivation of posting styles. Typically I can very rarely adequately explain town and scum reads on Day 1, but I tend to not second guess myself. It works pretty well for me.
I come from a long history on another site that lynching anything that doesn't share the same wincon as you is always the right play, and stick to my opinion that the correct play today is still lynch the variable that can hurt town in the long run. People are a bit softer here and willing to give it a pass, but I've yet to play a game where a lynch can be reserved for a later time and that luxury maintained it's status quo through the game.
In post 1614, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah I'm vibing pretty hard with Jingle's reads. Him scum reading me is usually indicative of town for players who aren't familiar with me.
this doesnt ring pure to you jingle?
It does read as genuine to me. It doesn't read as a post scum can't make genuinely though, which is more of what I'm interested in seeing. I'm fairly certain CT thinks that post was well made and that my having made it means I'm probably town, but whether that is because she is scum and is expressing that to try to get into my good graces or as town who thinks the rest of my reads are good and I'm only really wrong on her is harder for me to tell. I think that that particular style of post would only come across as nongenuine if we were both scum, which... Well, we're not.
This string of posting is far more compelling. I'm not going to abandon my read just yet, partly because I haven't taken the time to explore it fully and partly because a large portion of your CT-town argument is meta that I'll have to get around to verifying at some point anyway. I'm fairly certain the two of you aren't scum together though, which is a nice confirmation of something I've suspected since your fight with RC anyway.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:37 pm
by Jingle
In post 1654, CheekyTeeky wrote:I miss RC :/
I mean I love Chara too but both would've been nice.
Sad to say, I'd probably not be here either. I don't play nicely with RC, so I find it's best I avoid games he's in. I was following along with the intention of offering to replace in when/if he was nightkilled.
FWIW, I appreciate the effort. This is probably the most fun I've had playing in a game this year, I like pretty much everyone who is playing so far, and I'd be happy to play with any of you again. I hope the feeling is largely mutual and that you guys are enjoying the game too. Even the scum.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:57 pm
by northsidegal
hi don't replace me
I'm town if you need game advancing content
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:25 pm
by Elsa Jay
I'd rather take a list of updated reads, North, but glad you confirmed your town to me. Really wonderful information. I thought you might have been scum, but thank you for clarifying.
Wonderful times. Would you give me your read on Almost? His comments so far this game have been enticing but you know him better then me at this point.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:32 pm
by northsidegal
-shrug-
it's not like i've been reading the game thread and just not posting. i would give you a list of updated reads if i could, but i don't exactly have much new to say. i'm going to read up the first chance i get and go from there.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:42 pm
by ruru
Sorry, correction:
(expired on 2018-10-16 02:00:00) remain.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:44 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Wait did flicker prove her role yet
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:47 pm
by Elsa Jay
Town literally gave up and decided it wasn't worth their time to prove the modifier. We're onto the next possible wagon. You can read who fucked it up if you want.
VOTE: BuJaber
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:57 pm
by BuJaber
Like I suspected, flicker wagon was a bullshit wagon nobody actually wanted to commit to.
Chara: yeah I expect Tora and RC to fight as soon as they disagree on anything. They're not just any random 2 people.
Set of people who joined RR wagon: {Toog, Tora, Cheeky, TW, Nico, Elsa, RC, Thor}
Set of people who joined flicker wagon: {nsg, Chick, RR, cheeky, Chara, Elsa, me, Toog}
Intersect: {Toog, Cheeky, RC/Chara, Elsa}
Definitely scum among the intersect.
Doesn't mean everyone else on the wagons is town but there's scum here for sure.
Besides this list will be helpful again with RR/Flicker flips.
And there's still the issue of TFP and Nico not really doing anything.
Toog answer this simple question: do you think Elsa will endgame as scum?
For those paying attention Toog has had one really solid stance: that we need to lynch Elsa. EVERY SINGLE OTHER VOTE of his was on the popular wagon of the time. We talked a lot about the definitions of lurking when it comes to TFP and Nico but nobody seems to put Toog in that list. Has anyone actually read his ISO? You can do it while sipping your morning cup of coffee.. it's that short.
If you guys still refuse to see how RC/Chara slot is questionable at best, let's lynch Toog instead.
Consider my vote on both
VOTE: Chara
Also I'm going to forego my ego this time and say I probably can't read gamma very well.. or more accurately, I need a LOT of posts from gamma to be able to sort him, so it might come too late in the game.
So for the time being can I get a list of people who have experienced BOTH his town game and scum game?
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:22 pm
by BuJaber
In post 1670, BuJaber wrote:Like I suspected, flicker wagon was a bullshit wagon nobody actually wanted to commit to.
To clarify, this means that a) flicker is town or b) scum DEFINITELY bussed.
Like when you have a bullshit wagon on a slot that later flips scum you can pretty much guarantee that scum bussed.
But in most cases it points to the slot being town because scum would join it and then be able to make a choice whether they want to whiteknight it if town aren't sure about lynching it or they get an easy mislynch by pushing a popular wagon. Whiteknighting is less suspicious when you actually vote the wagon and THEN 'change your mind' based on reactions/claim etc.
I don’t know. My strongest scumreads are offwagon. *shrug*
~N
It's like there was the possibility of insight, and then it was stamped upon brutally.
Tor continues to be trash and continues to avoid me.
Him white knighting this wagon makes me think he's statistically more likely to be right about the potential alignment flip. This is based on me thinking he's primary groupscum, natch.
Flicker’s posts show clear town thought process to me. This sort of thing is not easily fakable.
~Nancy
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:44 pm
by Nancy Drew Shogunate
In post 1499, CheekyTeeky wrote:I keep misreading Thor's aggressive tone as scummy I think. Rereading his ISO, his aggression seems directed towards genuine sorting, and it's done in such a way that it's likely to ruffle too many feathers if he were scum.
I did agree with Jingle on the point that Thor does like his vanity wagons as scum, however ime he tends to tunnel hard when doing so. Here he's provided pretty fluid reads (e.g. his progression on Tor going from liking to "trash"), along with a number of scum/town reads, which makes me feel this style is quite different from what I remember of his scum game.
I'm really vibing with his read on Toranaga. I know Chara is pretty iffy about the NDS slot too so I wouldn't be sad if someone shot it :/ ok maybe a little sad but that's what you get for being scum.
