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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:15 am
by Almost50
Btw, if you didn't care about my reads you wouldn't have questioned them when I was TRing you, nor would you have commented on them when I finally saw the light. Try another one. I'll be waiting just around the corner.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:16 am
by Almost50
A50
Mewtaph I care literally zero about your reads. You know this. Stop spamming the thread with useless quips. :P

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:19 am
by Sephiroth
I cared about your reads earlier in the game, not sure why I would care about them now when they're so obviously based on nothing lol

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:19 am
by Sephiroth
The only problem is thats how you always are so I can't independently sr you on how shit your reads are.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:24 am
by Almost50
In post 1653, Sephiroth wrote:I can't independently sr you
In post 1642, Sephiroth wrote:{ A50, Nako, Oka } with a dark horse candidate of Dva.
I take it you mean you have to invent some additional bad reads to include me in them?? :shifty:

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:30 am
by Sephiroth
In post 1653, Sephiroth wrote:I can't independently sr you
on how shit your reads are.
I literally said I scum read you based on your rolefishing yesterday. You're such a disingenuous piece of shit sometimes you know that? Like honestly the quote doctoring you just did goes beyond scum vs town, its literally just being a shitty person and shitty mafia player.

Get your shit together. For real.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:31 am
by Sephiroth
Like you commented on it. You know DAMN WELL what I meant and you know DAMN WELL that you just misrepped me for now reason.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:34 am
by Sephiroth
Like honestly A50/AP, you are the 'youtube comments' of mafia players.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:44 am
by Almost50
In post 1655, Sephiroth wrote:
In post 1653, Sephiroth wrote:I can't independently sr you
on how shit your reads are.
I literally said I scum read you based on your rolefishing yesterday. You're such a disingenuous piece of shit sometimes you know that? Like honestly the quote doctoring you just did goes beyond scum vs town, its literally just being a shitty person and shitty mafia player.

Get your shit together. For real.
Why THANK YOU. Coming from you; I'll take that as a compliment. :P

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:45 am
by Almost50
In post 1657, Sephiroth wrote:Like honestly A50/AP, you are the 'youtube comments' of mafia players.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:51 am
by Sephiroth
I'm not mad in a general sense, I'm just saying you're clearly disingenuous use of quote doctoring makes you completely unreliable as a source of information, and not worth arguing with since you live in the world of stupidity and in the absence of reason or good faith. Its like arguing in the youtube comments. Much like youtube comments I'm just going to ignore you the rest of the game.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:51 am
by Sephiroth
your*

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:04 am
by DrDolittle
i agree with seph. i also don't see the point in hypo-claiming. should i list like the roles and tell the truth of who i would target if i were actually that role? or is there more strategy involved? hypoclaiming would literally just give scum more information and help them map into the PR right, you know since they have more information than town to work with yadda yadda.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:22 am
by Mewtaph
Me too.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:30 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1631, Joey_ wrote:Mew : towny, tone is good
Which posts? I dont see it

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:31 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1642, Sephiroth wrote:Also don't see Nako as town either, and I don't actually think its feasible that the BEF kill came from scum so I don't see why you would town read Nako based on the NK. His behavior yesterday was NAI at best and at worst he went on a crusade against me without even knowing where my vote was.

In my opinion, the scum pool is

{ A50, Nako, Oka } with a dark horse candidate of Dva.

I see Gamma as the only non-conf townread that I feel strongly about, but I also don't see PP as scum here. If he is, I'm upset at him for being lurky and lazy and coasting to a win. I still feel his reaction to my vote on his wagon yesterday is a strong town indicator.
I feel comfortable saying at least 2 of those are town

VOTE: seph

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:34 am
by Mewtaph
Kokichi do you know how to correctly play mason in a mafia game? This is not it.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:37 am
by Sephiroth
Can you not put me at -1 because our reads differ? Holy shit

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:37 am
by Joey_
@seph
I take the criticism and i will reset my reads, will reread later tonight
UNVOTE:

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:52 am
by DVa
OK Nako
In post 1476, Nako wrote:Maybe we should do massclaim, who agrees?
You asked for a massclaim
In post 1536, Nako wrote:If I'm anything but watcher, I visited BEF and they came up as VT/Town member/nothing yet.

If I'm watcher, I was blocked.
You accepted a hypoclaim and then basically claimed watcher, insisted you were roleblocked and gave no target that would imply you'd even thought about ascetic
In post 1539, Nako wrote:Yeah It's most likely DVa if that's the case.
You helped push A50's tinfoil tunnel on me. This one really bothers me, because of 1637. If this is your reaction in 1637, why was your response here not:
"Don't rolefish me, A50"
or
"Don't make assumptions about which of my hypoclaims was real"
In post 1637, Nako wrote:Nice rolefish, DVa.
And now, *after asking for a massclaim* and pushing A50's tinfoil, you're going to accuse me of rolefishing? You're the one that wanted a massclaim, Nako.


I liked Nako's d1 play but her progression this dayphase has left me baffled.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:19 am
by DVa
In post 1662, DrDolittle wrote:i also don't see the point in hypo-claiming.
thinking about whether town Dr.D ever makes this post. The point of hypoclaiming is to protect town power roles that want to out results. BUT, it usually only makes sense if anyone has either a hard inno or a guilty. It's also a complicated process in a closed setup when so many roles can be weird or heavily gated.

So yeah, right now, it is an open question. But I find it weird that you and Mew's "MeToo" are just kind of casually shading it

especially when the apparent appeal (of trying to draw scum fire away from a potential vig or protecting... a gunsmith claim, for instance) should be obvious. It would make more sense if you said "now that A50 has hardclaimed, it's pointless"

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:21 am
by Mewtaph
Lol fake

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:30 am
by OkaPoka
I made a post on hypoclaims but if not everyone does it there is no point.

Also it's laughable that sephiroth shades me for lurking

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:31 am
by Sephiroth
Thats not why I'm shading you, and I also never lurker, I was on V/LA the entirety of that time. I wasn't just lurking I was driving 14 hours and attending my sister's wedding. This narrative (started by A50 D1) is absolute trash.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:36 am
by Sephiroth
In post 1239, OkaPoka wrote:Hey people on useless wagons.

Cut the crap and vote someone that matters already. We have 50 pages of content and obviously your wagon isn't taking off with the given information so I'd either suggest you introduce new content or get behind a wagon that'll move the gamestate forward. All these arguments are getting circular and repetitive and they don't do much at all except give more opportunities at town cred grabbing. now i get if you want to stand up for your beliefs and push who you think is most scummy, but the fact that people aren't being exactly swayed to your position means that its not going to happen with the given gamestate and thus we need to move the game forward. vote someone that matters or actually make a strong argument.

thanks.
^^ This post, combined with both the leading wagons at the time flipping town, combined with it being 5 days prior to deadline, combined with your utter lack of attempts to scum hunt during the rest of that day phase, is why I am SCUMREADING you. Shade means a different thing entirely, you know that.