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In post 1642, Shoshin wrote:This is what you're ignoring. Why are you ignoring this?

its not ignoring if this is not the experience I'm citing.

@shoshin so you said you efforted bop because you really wanted to beat rc

what's giving you the motivation to effort!town here? and even if you don't want to answer that, why shouldn't I just take it as a given that you're motivated for this game, and also that you would be motivated for those reasons regardless of alignment?

actually skitter can actually confirm that too, i made an ass of myself when her and her mason partner claimed mason, just sat there laughing lmao

In post 1650, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1642, Shoshin wrote:This is what you're ignoring. Why are you ignoring this?

its not ignoring if this is not the experience I'm citing.

You're citing one game. One game. You didn't look at any scum games. Why?

In post 1623, Saladman27 wrote:Yeah it is alot but it could be just active lurking...

saladman is living up to his name with some quality word salad

@sho I’m not into metareading player’s other games but how can we know that you lurk more as scum?

b/c that requires effort.

In post 1624, Shoshin wrote:Nom's far beyond what I saw from them as scum.

yeah but didn't she have a post restriction or something in undertale, like I'm not sure that's fully indicative of her actual scumrange

In post 1641, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1636, Cinnamon wrote:I think in the event that Shoshin is town here there's definitely scum on the wagon

This is what I've been saying... can you help me sort it out?

I actually don't townread a single person on the wagon. As you can tell by my vote, I saw Flubber's play earlier in the game as scummy. While the aforementioned 851 did resolve in 863 I think their interactions in these posts weren't great. I also think Salad's play here is weird, not necessarily scummy but at most mislead town. I explained a scum read on Nero earlier in the game. Urap I'm pretty null on, I just haven't gotten a good read on them yet. I had a town read earlier on nom but their confidence here has me questioning it. However, they are the least scummy person on the wagon for me.

In post 1651, u r a person 2 wrote:@shoshin so you said you efforted bop because you really wanted to beat rc

what's giving you the motivation to effort!town here? and even if you don't want to answer that, why shouldn't I just take it as a given that you're motivated for this game, and also that you would be motivated for those reasons regardless of alignment?

Look at what happened in other town games when I've come under pressure. I effort as much as here. Then compare to what happens when I come under pressure as scum. I lurk until I'm lynched.

I'm motivated because I'm town. I'm active/engaged at this moment because I need to be to avoid getting mislynched. If things were calmer, I'd be able to take more time rereading posts instead of trying to defend myself.

In post 1657, Detective Pikachu wrote:

In post 1624, Shoshin wrote:Nom's far beyond what I saw from them as scum.

yeah but didn't she have a post restriction or something in undertale, like I'm not sure that's fully indicative of her actual scumrange

The post restriction didn't stop her from posting thoughts about the game.

In post 1657, Detective Pikachu wrote:

In post 1624, Shoshin wrote:Nom's far beyond what I saw from them as scum.

yeah but didn't she have a post restriction or something in undertale, like I'm not sure that's fully indicative of her actual scumrange

That post restriction was just writing in a papyrus font.

Well, "post restriction". My provided fakeclaim was supposed to write in papyrus at least.

@shoshin I feel like you're town reading me now. Why the change?

It’s because you unvoted.

In post 1655, Saladman27 wrote:@sho I’m not into metareading player’s other games but how can we know that you lurk more as scum?

I have four scum games on this site.

Scientific Mafia - lurked on D1, was lynched.

BoP - didn't lurk because I wanted to beat RC.

Undertale - active at the very start of the game when it was easy to shit post, started lurking towards end of D1, eventually got lynched.

Newbie - lurked until I was replaced.

If you compare that to my town games, it's clear very quickly that I lurk a lot more as scum than town. It doesn't take much research to learn this. If you're unwilling to check games, rely on what others tell you based on their research.

Nero has read exactly one of my games. He's untrustworthy. Skitter has read more of them. She's trustworthy. Pika seems to be very aware of my games. He's trustworthy. These are the players you trust on this front.

In post 1663, u r a person 2 wrote:@shoshin I feel like you're town reading me now. Why the change?

I can't townread you until you unvote me.

In post 1637, u r a person 2 wrote:Can I get teacher and DP to give some thoughts on this please

I'm having mixed feelings, I'm trying to decide whether we're playing [a game where town lynches strongest PR d1] or [a game where town let's scum get off from a strong investigative claim], I've lost games to both of those scenarios before

I think I would like the sho lynch more if nom hadn't started pinging me just a little bit, but uhh, I also recognize that my 'pace' in deciding things like this tends to be a lot slower than most town are okay with

(Still feel bad for Egix, did you see that he conceded and mod actually denied it? Ughh that was like, a huge reason I was second guessing myself on him because I was pretty sure he would concede. sorry this is o/t)

But how can we know you haven’t changed your scum meta?

In post 1666, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1663, u r a person 2 wrote:@shoshin I feel like you're town reading me now. Why the change?

I can't townread you until you unvote me.

Please just lynch this.

I started feeling the change in tone towards me and the willingness to answer my questions before I unvoted you for a sec there

so was I just wrong in sensing that?

In post 1636, Cinnamon wrote:I think in the event that Shoshin is town here there's definitely scum on the wagon

statistically that's pretty likely of any wagon with 4 people on it, scum or town

In post 1667, Detective Pikachu wrote:I think I would like the sho lynch more if nom hadn't started pinging me just a little bit, but uhh, I also recognize that my 'pace' in deciding things like this tends to be a lot slower than most town are okay with

I'm going to tell you again.

This never flips cop. If it does, I will literally self vote tomorrow.

In post 1658, Cinnamon wrote:

In post 1641, Shoshin wrote:

In post 1636, Cinnamon wrote:I think in the event that Shoshin is town here there's definitely scum on the wagon

This is what I've been saying... can you help me sort it out?

I actually don't townread a single person on the wagon. As you can tell by my vote, I saw Flubber's play earlier in the game as scummy. While the aforementioned 851 did resolve in 863 I think their interactions in these posts weren't great. I also think Salad's play here is weird, not necessarily scummy but at most mislead town. I explained a scum read on Nero earlier in the game. Urap I'm pretty null on, I just haven't gotten a good read on them yet. I had a town read earlier on nom but their confidence here has me questioning it. However, they are the least scummy person on the wagon for me.

I agree about Flubb's interactions around 851, as I mentioned. His vote on me was awful, as well. He's likely scum from my perspective.

Salad's playing bad. The question is whether it's an act or genuine town badness. I'm unsure on this. I don't scumread but I can't townread either.

Nero's playing scummy, agreed.

U2's a better player than what he's showing here. He'd also want me gone as scum, so the fact he continues voting me after the cop claim has me concerned. Scum love to strongarm lynches on cops.

I think Nom's probably town. I hate to say it but unfortunately it is what it is.

We seem to mostly be on the same page. I'm happy to build a wagon on one of Flubb/Nero with you, if that sounds right to you?

Pika, are you scumreading my behavior? I don't understand this.