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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:33 am
by shos
You do realize you cannot trust his words
His wincon may be something that allows him to win over you in a tie; they might have a 1sVig; who knows.

Also have you ever read me & nom's interactions lol

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:04 am
by cyrus62
In post 1650, shos wrote:You do realize you cannot trust his words
His wincon may be something that allows him to win over you in a tie; they might have a 1sVig; who knows.

Also have you ever read me & nom's interactions lol
yes nom always unvoted you when they voted you and before thire vote was counted might i add and you tried to unvote them but it was to late.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:37 am
by shos
eh sure sure keep at it

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:29 am
by Chickadee
I started the game as town. I even crumbed VT on D1. My claim of VT was never a lie. It's what I started as. I got converted N1 by Drew's role. My win condition is to gain the majority.....AS THE LONE CULTIST. So you can see why I'm depressed af about the game.


THE ONLY condition where it might be smart for town to lynch me today is if there were a town killing role. But no one claimed one. And at this point, I would not trust any taksie-backsie claims. But a town killing role could account for another kill last night. Outside of that, it has to be scum.

I have no reason to out myself and lie. If I were planning on lying I would just stay hidden. I have no hope of winning this game, so I'm siding with at least my former alignment.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:03 am
by Vorkuta
Vork's amazing Bookkeeping vol #4

---not-Ded---
shos- VT #
cyrus62- VT #
Vorkuta- prolly not-bastard-PR #
Kelly- VT #
Chickadee- VT turned cultist #

---Dead----
Iconeum- medium #
nomnomnom- Goon #
Chemist1422- VT #
PMysterious- Goon #
RCEnigma- VT #
Baezu/FF- VT #
Korina- ??? (modkilled, but I'm assuming ???) (Bastard role)
Doctor Drew- recruiter # (Bastard role)

---Verdict---
5/7 Non-Bastard Roles used up
(nom, Chemist, Jiggly, RCE, FF)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:04 am
by Vorkuta
So why do we have a lying townie?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:40 am
by shos
Technically, we don't know if the goons had extra spice.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:29 am
by Kelly Chen
How is it "a" lying townie, aren't you missing about 4.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:55 am
by Vorkuta
In post 1657, Kelly Chen wrote:aren't you missing about 4
Best case scenario I'm missing 2?
I'm assuming 3:1:1- the scum ok fine, their wincon is to lie.
That leaves 1 more from the (3) pool

Walk me through the math please

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:03 am
by cyrus62
ty vork you guys do notist that shos keeps on trying to convince us to kill chick even though chick and i are the only ones not liying .

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:07 am
by cyrus62
ok vork since this is are game now we know cult cant kill and only scum can kill so im going need you to fully clime so we can catch the last scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:11 am
by cyrus62
also if any one still doubts me go ahead and lynch me but woe to you for wasteing a good lynch.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:34 am
by shos
In post 1659, cyrus62 wrote:ty vork you guys do notist that shos keeps on trying to convince us to kill chick even though chick and i are the only ones not liying .
What on Earth are you talking about
How did we allow him to still be here damnit

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:54 am
by Kelly Chen
@Vork We saw maybe 3 bastard roles with an expectation of 7. If there's something bastard about the mafia we could get the number closer, I guess, but I don't know how we can assume that's the case. Makes more sense to wonder about your role being bastard even if you think it isn't. So yeah you should claim already.

Regarding the idea of lynching Chick. It's not as good as scum. But it would prevent the possible scenario where the next two deaths are town, which I think would mean town can't win anymore.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:47 am
by Chickadee
Kelly I’m a town vote. I will not actively vote against someone I think is town. You guys should be scum hunting. Don’t even consider me today unless we’re getting down to deadline.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:16 am
by cyrus62
im starting to think the only reason we havent lost yet is due to chick

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:50 am
by shos
why would we lose cyrus
we're 5 people, of which at max 1 can be scum and at max 2 can be cult

can we just lynch cyrus to end the nonsense

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:52 am
by Vorkuta
Fuck I've dreaded this
anyway

Disloyal Redirector

you can imagine how many times the mod told me "can't answer that" in response to all my questions

TL;DW (wiki)
I take someone's targetted night action (i.e- doctor shot on X, or vig-shot on Y) and REDIRECT ( :mrgreen: ) it on someone else.
It has literally 1 "useful" usage in this setup and the odds of that happening are.... 0.

N1- Drew -> Cyrus (Drew was town *sadface*)
N2- Jigglypuff -> Cyrus (jigglypuff didn't do the NK *sadface*)
N3- Cyrus -> Ico (idk)
N4- Shos -> Cyrus

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:54 am
by Vorkuta
Literally the only usecases

1- Redirect an NK to... someone else. This is for WIFOM (scum now panicks about a protective + vig) while giving me a hard guilty
2- Redirect the NK to partner!scum. Odds of this happening are very high
3- Redirect cult recruitment (error, cannot do)
4- uh..... which one of you bastards is lying and has an active ability that I could've messed with?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:25 pm
by cyrus62
if i had a useful one i had used it to help my reads so far my reads tell me somethings off i do buy vorks clime though . so vork and chick are no lynch leaveing me to look at kelly and shos and if vork feels its between me and shos i will help lynch my self to make it easyer for him.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:39 pm
by cyrus62
In post 1667, Vorkuta wrote:Fuck I've dreaded this
anyway

Disloyal Redirector

you can imagine how many times the mod told me "can't answer that" in response to all my questions

TL;DW (wiki)
I take someone's targetted night action (i.e- doctor shot on X, or vig-shot on Y) and REDIRECT ( :mrgreen: ) it on someone else.
It has literally 1 "useful" usage in this setup and the odds of that happening are.... 0.

N1- Drew -> Cyrus (Drew was town *sadface*)
N2- Jigglypuff -> Cyrus (jigglypuff didn't do the NK *sadface*)
N3- Cyrus -> Ico (idk)
N4- Shos -> Cyrus
wait this means its kelly lets lynch there .

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:51 pm
by Kelly Chen
Ok, I see how this role would set some expectations about what other roles are in the game.

Why does it mean lynch Kelly?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:03 pm
by Kelly Chen
Oh so Shos is basically cleared. Well then it has to be cyrus.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:09 pm
by Kelly Chen
Vork is that wrong? It seems like that clears Shos.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:02 pm
by cyrus62
im vt shos is cleard chick is cult vork is cleard so that means it you kelly