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Luna was such a good N1 kill for them if she was right on all her town reads [Nero, Zant, Norwe], especially if it was scum!popop, because she pushed him as well.

I feel it can be scum!popop but it's because she may have been wrong on one of her TRs, and I don't feel strongly about Norwe anymore. I feel Norwe has better NKs here than...Elems.

I feel he might have N1 killed me since I said he was the next I would take a look but maybe that's egocentric. Alternatively I could be town reading one of his buddies which turns again to [Zantetsu, Alch, Nero]

This whole game only seems to make sense to me if there's a deepwolf.

VOTE: Nero

I don't feel he's as town as people are making it out to be

What exactly is town from him?

He has mostly sit on Popop during the game, and went along with the main lynches in Jake/Peter when they popped up.

Luna said "meta" but dunno, he doesn't feel very engaged in this game in the first place.

Alternatively I could do Alch, let me mull over it more.

In post 1650, Churros wrote:Luna was such a good N1 kill for them if she was right on all her town reads [Nero, Zant, Norwe], especially if it was scum!popop, because she pushed him as well.

I feel it can be scum!popop but it's because she may have been wrong on one of her TRs, and I don't feel strongly about Norwe anymore. I feel Norwe has better NKs here than...Elems.

I feel he might have N1 killed me since I said he was the next I would take a look but maybe that's egocentric. Alternatively I could be town reading one of his buddies which turns again to [Zantetsu, Alch, Nero]

This whole game only seems to make sense to me if there's a deepwolf.

If Luna was right on all her reads it’s possible she wasn’t killed because scum didn’t want to implicate themselves.

I still don’t get the Elements kill unless the idea was to deny Town any info from a flip.

re:read Nero's ISO...

it feels...ok for the most part.

I mean, the switch from popop to peter with a "peter wagon makes no sense" only to 2 minutes later go "I can see the case on peter" is odd to say the least, but other than that there's not much spicy on his ISO.

It doesn't look a lot like a classic scum ISO but at the same time, sometimes mafia is simply mafia and they didn't play scummy at all.

Hmm..

Scum Nero is gonna kill the person that's town reading him the hardest. makes sense.

In post 1654, Nero Cain wrote:Scum Nero is gonna kill the person that's town reading him the hardest. makes sense.

basically this

i think i have more reason to kill luna than nero tbh

Everyone was town reading you yesterday

makes no difference at all

as a mercy kill or payback kill for her killing me last game

yeah and while I posted that, I thought about another selection, if Nero is scum, they probably killed Luna because she was right on either Alch or Profi

Alternatively she was right on Saudade but I feel Saudade is the most likely town slot in that PoE?

Therefore I would be fine starting by [Alch, Profi] if there's such a denial on Nero at the moment.

i think most people have proffii in scum or null at this moment anyways...

If Nero is scum they didn't have much other night targets anyway in N2 imo

out of the ~consensus~ town reads, there was:

Luna

Me

Zantetsu

Maybe I was more useful alive than dead to tunnel Alch/Norwe or something, and maybe they thought Zantetsu was a worse NK than Luna.

It's doable.

Who exactly scum!Nero kills anyway if not Luna yesterday?

The unique other option is Zantetsu and I don't feel a strong opinion from Zantetsu in the game.

I don't even remember much his reads other than he's mostly aligned with consensus.

Nero also opened the game voting profi when Luna died voting profi, which could be a frame-kill.

its probably obvi zantetsu isn't a PR and his frustration with game will probably cause more dsyfunction with town so i think its pretty obvi why he wouldn't be killed. Unless I was scum, i would mercy do it.

U weren't killed cause ur role is useless and or ur scum here.

So luna was best kill since she is never getting lynched and she could be a PR (though I didn't think she was)

so maybe this NK speculation is kind of useless?

i have a pr speculation chart want me to share with the class?

No?

You/Nero just said that scum!him wouldn't kill Luna

I'm proving that if Nero is scum Luna is still one of the most viables night kills

don't dismiss Nero being mafia because of Luna NK is the core message?

they have been making the most safest and unenthusiastic nightkills so far, I don't feel that excludes Nero

find game reasons to hard town read him if that's what you guys are go with. I can see a world where he's simply town, but I don't feel bad lynching him at all.

In post 1666, Churros wrote:You/Nero just said that scum!him wouldn't kill Luna

yeah but i mean, he wouldn't kill her for reads he would kill her because anyone would since she isnt lynchable or maybe is a PR?

Yeah, but I never said he was killing her for reads especifically

if it was for reads, maybe it was because she had one of his buddies, but it can simply be she got everything wrong and got nightkilled, still.

if ur nero going for nk ur not gonna go "I am gonna kill Luna here because of her reads" and when it becomes "I am killing those not lynchable" it becomes a clusterfuck because anyone would make those kinds of kills.

In post 1653, Churros wrote:re:read Nero's ISO...

it feels...ok for the most part.

I mean, the switch from popop to peter with a "peter wagon makes no sense" only to 2 minutes later go "I can see the case on peter" is odd to say the least, but other than that there's not much spicy on his ISO.

It doesn't look a lot like a classic scum ISO but at the same time, sometimes mafia is simply mafia and they didn't play scummy at all.

this is pretty yuck though. Like you are MAD hedging here.

In post 1403, Nero Cain wrote:My only niggle about Pan has been his like when he didn't think it was scummy as fuck that pop was calling me scum but treating me as town. Although no one else seemed to agree with that point anyways so *shrug*. I asked you why he was scum and all u said was that you had caught him d1. I was not impressed.

And them I was agreeing with Alch's reasoning once he explained it.

In post 1406, Alchemist21 wrote:When I told people early on to vote Peter, do you know what his response was? “Ok boomer.” That might seem like just a meme to you but that’s actually the kind of dismissive post scum gives when someone has a correct read on them but thinks the person scumreading them doesn’t have a case.

In post 1669, Firebringer wrote:if ur nero going for nk ur not gonna go "I am gonna kill Luna here because of her reads" and when it becomes "I am killing those not lynchable" it becomes a clusterfuck because anyone would make those kinds of kills.

Fire I'll gently tell you to read my initial post

you're like, assuming my reason to SR nero has anything to do with Luna dying when it has to do with Elems dying + him not dying + his play here

I'm only justifying that scum!Nero would still NK Luna because you did echo the sentiment of "why would nero nk luna here when she TR him?"

You're making this confusing when it's not.

In post 1666, Churros wrote:but I don't feel bad lynching him at all.

you do not lynch a strong player when you haven't even bothered to lynch his top scumread. This is doubles mafia all over again where you try to mislynch me b4 I solve the game. The only difference here is that you could be scum.

In post 1671, Churros wrote:

In post 1669, Firebringer wrote:if ur nero going for nk ur not gonna go "I am gonna kill Luna here because of her reads" and when it becomes "I am killing those not lynchable" it becomes a clusterfuck because anyone would make those kinds of kills.

Fire I'll gently tell you to read my initial post

you're like, assuming my reason to SR nero has anything to do with Luna dying when it has to do with Elems dying + him not dying + his play here

I'm only justifying that scum!Nero would still NK Luna because you did echo the sentiment of "why would nero nk luna here when she TR him?"

You're making this confusing when it's not.

okay maybe i need sleep then. I don't get it.

I'll stop being cheeky though

VOTE: popop