In post 1614, Menalque wrote:So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears
Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.
VOTE: NK15
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:53 am
by GuiltyLion
okay I just read pages 64-65 and I'm seeing Notsci/Norway scumteam now lmao
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:55 am
by FakeGod
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:55 am
by GuiltyLion
I would like a {Norway/Smart} pool for investigation tonight
maybe Umlaut
but will defer to Ico
I'm back to thinking NS is scum, his latest posts today reek of how I play caught/suspected scum, act all blasé about my execution and shame town while not actually doing anything to push somebody else too hard
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:56 am
by GuiltyLion
VOTE: Notscience
VOTE TO INSPECT: Wheat
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:58 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 1580, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm still not seeing NotScience or Moment as scummy, and Username is most likely tunneling town. Username seem to be personally offended about what NotScience did earlier, but that doesn't mean NotScience is scum. Basically Username has a problem with discerning the difference between scummy play and regular town play he himself doesn't like.
this in particular feels like the most openwolf post in the history of openwolf posts
In post 1614, Menalque wrote:So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears
Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.
VOTE: NK15
are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum
In post 1614, Menalque wrote:So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears
Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.
VOTE: NK15
are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum
Come on man
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:32 am
by username
In post 1646, NorwegianboyEE wrote:From my POV it’s quite telling how easily NS got wagoned. Me being the only one to defend NS shows that scum are content with the lynch today. So either NS is town or scum are hard bussing him. Now tell me which you guys think is most likely.
If you call this an easy wagon boy I'd hate to see what you think is a tough one
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:36 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1656, kuribo wrote:are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum
I am voting inside of a group that has at least three confirmed scum.
In post 1614, Menalque wrote:So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears
Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.
VOTE: NK15
are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum
Come on man
I just wanna reiterate that I find it EXTREMELY scummy in this setup to step back and say "well I know there's at least one scum in that group but I don't want to take a stance on any of them"
In post 1656, kuribo wrote:are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum
I am voting inside of a group that has at least three confirmed scum.
You're literally voting a player that isn't within that group of three, come off it
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:38 am
by Something_Smart
More to the point, I'm voting to oblige Titus and Menalque, who would like to see votes because they think they can draw analysis from it, and not because I expect NK to be executed or think pushing to execute NK would be healthy for the gamestate.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:39 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1660, username wrote:I just wanna reiterate that I find it EXTREMELY scummy in this setup to step back and say "well I know there's at least one scum in that group but I don't want to take a stance on any of them"
I read Moment as the opposite alignment from NK. Is that not a stance?
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:40 am
by username
But if you're only voting a useless vote to create VCA data, you're gaming the data and making it useless
I can't honestly think of a scummier response than that.
In post 1660, username wrote:I just wanna reiterate that I find it EXTREMELY scummy in this setup to step back and say "well I know there's at least one scum in that group but I don't want to take a stance on any of them"
I read Moment as the opposite alignment from NK. Is that not a stance?
It's really really not because NK15 hasn't flipped
Get off the fence and grow a pair.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:42 am
by Something_Smart
I appreciate the implication that I can stand to be on the fence because I don't have certain sensitive parts that would normally cause that to be painful.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:45 am
by Something_Smart
If I were to force a stance it would be, well, forced.
I think it's pretty evident that I'm most open to killing notscience out of the three, given that I'm sheeping Menalque on Datisi and I want to sort Moment by flipping NK first. But there doesn't seem to be a need to rush that, especially since notscience is the leading wagon.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:06 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:52 am
by Hel
Something_Smart is one of my favourite players on this site.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:56 am
by Hel
Norwee's openwolfing has actually made me less confident on notscience + Norwee. Like, isn't this a game losing play for scum!him? Given notscience is leading wagon and it's doubtful he can change so many people's minds. Also, he went for Datisi over Moment who actually had some initial voters. He might be town if notscience is scum lol. If notscience is town, he can still be scum because he's acting scummy and might just be doing this because he knows scum!Datisi/Moment aren't getting lynched today.
Inspecting too many people is actually a bad idea. Let's shrink the investigative pool to [Umlaut, GuiltyLion]. GuiltyLion doesn't have nearly enough posts.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:08 am
by maxwell
Hel wrote:Norwee's openwolfing has actually made me less confident on notscience + Norwee. Like, isn't this a game losing play for scum!him? Given notscience is leading wagon and it's doubtful he can change so many people's minds. Also, he went for Datisi over Moment who actually had some initial voters. He might be town if notscience is scum lol. If notscience is town, he can still be scum because he's acting scummy and might just be doing this because he knows scum!Datisi/Moment aren't getting lynched today.
Whoever in that group of 3 is scum is caught and as good as dead, if not today then tomorrow or day 4. Volunteering himself for a check here would be a losing play, correct.
In post 1653, GuiltyLion wrote:I would like a {Norway/Smart} pool for investigation tonight
maybe Umlaut
but will defer to Ico
I'm back to thinking NS is scum, his latest posts today reek of how I play caught/suspected scum, act all blasé about my execution and shame town while not actually doing anything to push somebody else too hard
I think we do a 3 person pool anyway if we're going that route and I absolutely want NK15 on it. I don't think norwegian is a hit in spite of everything, but he's volunteered himself so I'm fine with that.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:17 am
by NorwegianboyEE
One thing that's been bothering me. The fact that at least one scum willingly took an investigation is a bit odd. I think there are at least 2 theories to explain this from what i can see.
A: They decided to ship Wheat, and when that turned out to be the investigation they didn't think they could exit without looking scummy so they just took it. This might point to either NS giving up and doing a losing play. Or one of Datisi/Moment thought it would be fine if they were investigated because they wouldn't get lynched today and their teammates are likely to endgame even if they get lynched sooner or later.
B: Gambit. More than one scum are in the investigation pool. The plan was to have a guilty, get one of the scum lynched. And then the rest of the town would think the 2 other players are conf!town even if one or two of them are also scum.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:18 am
by Something_Smart
Why would they refuse to take an investigation? Then they just get executed.
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:19 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1669, Hel wrote:Something_Smart is one of my favourite players on this site.
Aw you're gonna make me blush and I don't even know if Azelfs are capable of that.