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In post 1645, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1643, Farren wrote:I don't recall anyone making a serious TvT case between you and Ydrasse.

hah I mean when you put it that way it sounds ridiculous doesn't it

Why though? Scum are less likely to call it TvT if it is, and might if their partner is in a SvT, so it's less likely by that metric.
Do you trust everyone's collective reads so much?

Ydrasse's lack of WIM today means she's just scum though. We should liberate her.

VOTE: Ydrasse
One day ten hours left.

do not

tea leaves is right about the lack of WIM, Ydrasse. You appear to be demotivated. I don't see any attempts on your end during D2 to find scum - just justifying your positions.

When someone is focused on themselves more so than the other players, that's a pretty good indicator of scum.

...what is wim?

"Wants it more."

I think of it as the drive to win.

ohhhh.

admittedly my attention has been divided d2 by a lot of different things so it’s understandable to be seen that way

i don’t have even the time right now to sit down + gamesolve since i’m about to work s:

I want to go do Ydrasse's job so she can play mafia

it’s very boring rn we have no business

I want to be your #1 customer

ok what would you like to order

1 hug

you can have one on the house

Why the unvote?

she's acting cute my heart is softed

I don't actually think it's particularly unlikely she's scum, tea leaves is the only slot deeper in PoE by now I think

In post 1537, Bell wrote:

In post 1501, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1500, Farren wrote:Re: 1492 - going into details kinda defeats the purpose of doing it.

Consider this though - if you hammer me because my "reaction is bad", I'll be here D3 and I want to understand exactly why you did that prior to my flip

and yes I am calling you scummy based on that post - I don't get the sense you've ever really committed to a firm read on me and it's problematic that you're giving yourself room to hammer in advance of me even posting in thread. If you think I'm town you should be defending me and pushing on Ydrasse/Isis for their garbage votes

Wait, why isn't my vote Garbage?

this question kinda feels like a grab for towncred

Farren said he was keeping an eye on Isis/Ydrasse slots, but then he had no problem with them voting me. whereas you were his strongest townread. I felt he should have been pushing on them specifically, you have nothing to do with that

You're removing the context of that point in order to ask a "why am I town" style of post

In post 1551, Bell wrote:

In post 1544, Ydrasse wrote:guilty feels incredibly fake + exaggerated to me; his outrage now (garbage votes) feels just as insincere to me as he did when he was like "guys... guys look at this!" yesterday.

both of the games that i've played with him he was town, and he wasn't like this in those. granted i am also very different than my previous games but with him it's a more... subtle thing? like, he's trying to emulate his town games fmpov rather than just being town.

I did notice a shift in tone. I don't think you're wrong here and yeah, if GL is town he will be back to end you it sounds like. I wonder. Isis implied she had 2 scum reads but only shared GL, but it doesn't feel really relevant to ask her for it, since I think she's town and she can let us know after/if we flip GL. Or focus on something else. I'm kind of chilling today.

@MT, sometimes, I obvious town. This might be a meta issue down the line for me if I stick around and am active enough here.

shift in tone compared to my past games? did you read my games with Ydrasse that she's referring to?

In post 1668, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1537, Bell wrote:

In post 1501, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 1500, Farren wrote:Re: 1492 - going into details kinda defeats the purpose of doing it.

Consider this though - if you hammer me because my "reaction is bad", I'll be here D3 and I want to understand exactly why you did that prior to my flip

and yes I am calling you scummy based on that post - I don't get the sense you've ever really committed to a firm read on me and it's problematic that you're giving yourself room to hammer in advance of me even posting in thread. If you think I'm town you should be defending me and pushing on Ydrasse/Isis for their garbage votes

Wait, why isn't my vote Garbage?

this question kinda feels like a grab for towncred

Farren said he was keeping an eye on Isis/Ydrasse slots, but then he had no problem with them voting me. whereas you were his strongest townread. I felt he should have been pushing on them specifically, you have nothing to do with that

You're removing the context of that point in order to ask a "why am I town" style of post

GL it's pointless scum!Bell won this mafia game if he exists I gave up on that

you should be cagematching Ydrasse rn

In post 1557, Farren wrote:

In post 1554, Bell wrote:I really don't want to put in the insane amount of effort required to go over assuming GT is scum and then working backwards on who his partner is.
Based just on what I've seen in his last posts, he's trying to hint that I AM his partner as mis-execution down the line, but that only really works if he's scum this game.

Based on not calling your vote garbage? That's the only thing I see that comes close to hinting the two of you are partners.

If GL is scum, I seriously doubt he tries to shade you. Seems like a very low-odds-of-success plan given how you're generally read.

In post 1558, Bell wrote:Yep. that's the one. It's small ofc.

why should I cage match Ydrasse? She's very likely flipped next if I go first here

if Bell is deep wolfing you plan to catch him how?

I'm playing around with the idea that I have way too many townreads because there really is only one scum inside of Bell/tea/Farren/Isis/Guilty, and I'm only avoiding voting Ydrasse because of a false metatell

If Ydrasse is scum here, that probably clears GL/Farren. I still do not think it's Bell. Could Ydrasse be paired with one of tea/Isis perhaps? Isis didn't really have game-related interactions with Ydrasse, just tons of fluffy ones, and tea placed Ydrasse quite high on their readslist initially, dropped her down after a while, but still kept GL/Dunn/Gamma lower and also definitely considered Farren D1.

today Isis joined the Guilty wagon but left quickly after the first sign of it potentially dying came (Dunn townreading GL), and tea did it even earlier (after Ydrasse naked voted GL). Not super surprising potential behaviour from a partner there

Am I missing anything that could disprove Ydrasse/Isis or Ydrasse/tea?

oops, quote bug, but I was about to quote those posts anyways. 1554 is a wildly self-conscious reach by Bell and it doesn't make any sense.

I think I'm talking myself into a Bell scumread

why are we sure he's town

I felt good about him D1 too but all he's done today is votepark me