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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 am

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Votes on Xtoxm or Catboi
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 am

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In post 1631, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1588, Morning Tweet wrote:I would say im mostly voting you because i dont want to vote gamma and i dont really have a strong place to go other than where somebody else is, and i at least sort of townlean the venus hydra. I also think you'd be a solid pick for Hectic and i dont have an opinion of u yet
what caused you to unvote gamma?
We aren’t yeeting Gamma.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:37 am

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Votecount 1.9

Dannflor(5)
~ (81), (58), (160), (246), (16)

unwnd(2)
~ (32), (159)
chkflip(2)
~ (57), (29)
Chara(2)
~ (38), (55)
Venus Mars and Pluto(1)
~ (25)
RCEnigma(1)
~ (122)
Firebringer(0)
~ (37)


Not Voting (5): Lunar Martian(20), Ydrasse(137), (130), Gamma Emerald(28), Flavor Leaf(159)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to FLIP.

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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:38 am

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In post 1632, Xtoxm wrote:just iso'd chkflip and YES i love it.
His vote on me is really bad but I’m agreeing with him on Dann. I was right about Dann in that anime game and he sounds similar here.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:42 am

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In post 1652, Krazy wrote:Dannflor(5) ~ catboi(81), Morning Tweet(58), skitter30(160), Starcrossed(246), Xtoxm(16)
lol is this dude getting bussed by the entire scum team

catboi tweetie xtoxm

flavor leaf really is the best town player of all time
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:44 am

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In post 1635, April Ludgate wrote:
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chkflip
- Honestly, brother, this is kind of a soul read. I've actually liked the content they provided, and I liked their response to the Chkflip semi wagon. While Chkflip was in that list of 4, I actually thought they were townie beforehand. The wagon didn't pick up steam, and I do think Hectic would purposefully tell people not to join a town wagon here to make it look like my plan failed.

Gamma Emerald
- The early wagon on Gamma seemed like a scum push, and generally, Gamma's been anti and against almost everything, being antagonistic to most reads, which I think is strongly indicative of townGamma.

Ydrasse
- Sassy Drassy having a lot of fun this game, what I've seen of her before, she took a lot of strong action in A Little Boonie, fee fi fo Moonie, and I'm not seeing that here. Boardgames she didn't do too much, but was scum able to coast through the game, so this also looks different. While I think there's a chance Hectic could be pushing all of this, I'm generally just going to trust she's town. If she's scum, she'd out herself eventually to me, which I think she's aware of, so I don't know if she would be interacting the way she has been.

skitter30
- I think they make a good pick for the scum team, but I've generally understood what they've been pushing. I have some paranoia that they are scum trying to pocket, but I've felt genuineness there. Skitter will be a player that takes action if they are scum, so I'm happy to think I'd be able to read that. Skitter also specifically knows I flip flop my reads on a dime and will push my town reads out of nowhere, so I don't think she plays the way she has as scum.

Starcrossed
- Early on I thought they were kinda scummy, but they've also been talking and interacting with me all game, and I think they've been pretty townie. However, they did the same thing when Pooky was actually scum against me, and I feel like if they are scum, I will eventually see it. So I'm going to give this a little ol lean town for now.

unwnd
- Unwnd's been really eager and seems to be enjoying this game. That's different. I was scum with him recently, and he was the exact opposite purposefully, so a change of playstyle isn't out of the question if he is scum, and I do think he is a pretty good pick. I don't know what to think about the Millerizer claim. It seems like a scummy role, but why did he claim it then? I'm comfortable here for now.

Chara
- I really did think they were super scummy early, and I do think they are a good pick here, specifically because they can handle themselves, they don't take huge risks, and they're not likely to be faded early. I think this would be a high chance of getting picked, however, I have a gut ping that's wanting to town read here, so I'm going to make this slightly about null, right under lean town. a slight lean town.

Lunar Martian
- Null this one. I think some of the Unwnd pushing was a bit weird, but I can see it coming from both sides. This will become an easy read as the game goes on.

Firebringer
- I'm undecided what I think here. Probably not a good sign, because I usually town read them.

RCEnigma
- I usually feel like they do more, and there were some moments of theirs that I didn't like, one recently with the Xtoxm vote. If Xtoxm is scum, this is a good sign, but why wasn't the Chkflip vote there earlier? They also haven't really put out much this game, but I feel they've been a presence, so this could be coasting scum trying not to say much in fear I'll catch them out? They haven't done anything really that scummy, but I'm suspicious here.

Titus
- Totus be doing alright, I don't hate their posts. It seems like they've been somewhat pushing a scum agenda, but that could just be Titus. I'm going to wanna wait to read this slot as the game goes on, but I probably want her to be around mid game to bounce stuff off of, and I think Titus' alignment will be obvious in a couple days.

Venus Mars and Pluto
- Haven't really liked their posts, I don't feel like pushing there yet because I don't think they've played too much, and Auro will town it up for me eventually if they're town. I don't really think Hectic picks them, though. I'm way too familiar with the slot, and I'm pretty sure he knows it.

Hopkirk
- I think hectic picked one of Ydrasse or Hopkirk. It just makes sense. I think Ydrasse is town, and I think Hopkirk interacting with Hectic in thread is pretty fake looking.

Morning Tweet
- I haven't liked anything they've said. They could be town, and I'm just misreading, but they were on the Gamma wagon, they're in the miller claims, and I think their ascetic thing was kind of weird. I also really don't like Ascetic Miller claim.

Dannflor
- Hasn't done much. Poor Gamma vote early one. I think they're scum caught in a position where they know if they post, they will look scummier.

Xtoxm
- Yo, everything that you say just makes me think scum. It's just unfortunate happenstance if you're town who happens to be ascetic, and I do typically think you're a great pick for Hectic's team. Everything seems to be lining up towards you. I think this upcoming push on you will help me read you, but this is my heaviest scum read.

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- I didn't like the vanilla claim, and multiple times throughout this game I have felt they were saying things to help out the gamestate. I think they've had pretty good play if they are scum, and that's part of the reason I think they are scum.

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Will Catboi be caught out for his hilarious vanilla claim?

Can Unwnd and Morning Tweet's claims BE any more scummy?!


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Yeah, I’m suspicious of all of the aesetic claims. It’s hard to believe they all come from town. @FL when are you ever going to read me correctly? *smh*

Why is chk your one of your top trs? Gamma I understand but why?
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:45 am

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In post 1574, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1075, Titus wrote:Ydrasse - Weak town
Gamma Emerald - Not memorable, but FL says town
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - Lean scum, no real presence of Nancy/Shiro. No cookies.
Morning Tweet - Can be town
Titus - Me
Xtoxm - No presence
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - Odd, weak scumlean but FL has a point of everyone SRing the slot
Hopkirk - Weak town
Lunar Martian - Needs more
chkflip - When will he arrive?
Dannflor - Weak town, stronger opening but fell off
Firebringer - Town
skitter30 - Town miller
unwnd - Town voting them upon request
RCEnigma - Weak scum
catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - Weak scum
Chara - Null

I tried to give a read on everyone. I want to get myself moving. Nothing's really strong though.
Still on same page stuff but Titus this reads list freaks me out a tiny bit. Mostly because you've played with me multiple times before and what the hell where on earth did you get that I had a strong opening from?

I don't even remember any of my own posts this game which is not a great sign!! So I'm just curious what exactly gave you strong vibes from me especially since you know I can do the surface level town stuff to at least some extent as scum.

And given I have no memory of my own posts and I was phone posting the whole time I doubt I did much more than poke at surface level stuff that caught my eye at the time

Also another point, I don't understand why you're doing this readslist. You have everyone at weak-something or null and some of these, like my read or the read on Starcrossed (which just says "odd" with no elaboration?) seem a bit like you're just tossing stuff out there. Which is fine if you're trying to get yourself going but I'm also not seeing you use this as a springboard to go in any specific direction. Like you're not trying to dig into why I "fell off," or what is odd about Starcrossed and why everyone seems to scum read them. You're just kinda throwing out what I can assume are fairly luke-warm takes and leaving it at that.

maybe you'll get more productive but this empty spinning-wheels sorta thing isn't the type of content I expect from you even to "get yourself started"
dann this post is weird and feels scummy to me :/
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:45 am

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In post 1653, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 1632, Xtoxm wrote:just iso'd chkflip and YES i love it.
His vote on me is really bad but I’m agreeing with him on Dann. I was right about Dann in that anime game and he sounds similar here.
Why's it bad? The reasoning seemed fine to me.
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:46 am

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Wagon on Chk leading nowhere where if he was scum, it would have based on the positioning of how the game went followed by votes able to go on Xtoxm.
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:46 am

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In post 1644, Starcrossed wrote:
In post 1639, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:No me. Don’t you and Fire try to rob me.
aren't you supposed to be dueling against Titus?
Yeah, I mean after that, obviously.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:47 am

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Plus, he's making content even within the gimmick style, that's genuinely townie.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:48 am

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Firebringer, I didn't recruit you so you could lurk and slack off. Come back in start makes some hard pushes on obvtown. Like what Pooky's doing.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:48 am

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In post 1654, Starcrossed wrote:
In post 1652, Krazy wrote:Dannflor(5) ~ catboi(81), Morning Tweet(58), skitter30(160), Starcrossed(246), Xtoxm(16)
lol is this dude getting bussed by the entire scum team

catboi tweetie xtoxm

flavor leaf really is the best town player of all time
i didn't do a teams list nor do I expect all the town reads to be correct.

That's not how I do reads.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:49 am

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In post 1652, Krazy wrote:
Votecount 1.9

Dannflor(5)
~ (81), (58), (160), (246), (16)

unwnd(2)
~ (32), (159)
chkflip(2)
~ (57), (29)
Chara(2)
~ (38), (55)
Venus Mars and Pluto(1)
~ (25)
RCEnigma(1)
~ (122)
Firebringer(0)
~ (37)


Not Voting (5): Lunar Martian(20), Ydrasse(137), (130), Gamma Emerald(28), Flavor Leaf(159)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to FLIP.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-26 20:10:19)



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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:49 am

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Your readslist isn't terrible, Flava, but I'd have these 4 bottom of my reads tbh

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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:49 am

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In post 1662, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1654, Starcrossed wrote:
In post 1652, Krazy wrote:Dannflor(5) ~ catboi(81), Morning Tweet(58), skitter30(160), Starcrossed(246), Xtoxm(16)
lol is this dude getting bussed by the entire scum team

catboi tweetie xtoxm

flavor leaf really is the best town player of all time
i didn't do a teams list nor do I expect all the town reads to be correct.

That's not how I do reads.
I know it's hard considering I can see like 8 layers+ at once when most people just see the surface, but just look into like the 2nd or 3rd layer separately, yo
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:50 am

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I USE THE DANNFLOR PREVIOUS FOR MISELIM. HE SAME HE NO SCUMBUTT

VOTE: UNWND

THIS WAGON MAYBE BEST MAYBE SMELLS OF THE DOG

CARTOONS YOU CRAZY
"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 1664, Check One Two wrote:Your readslist isn't terrible, Flava, but I'd have these 4 bottom of my reads tbh

Gamma Emerald
skitter30
Chara
Titus

I don't like to put actual scum on the bottom day 1.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 1654, Starcrossed wrote:
In post 1652, Krazy wrote:Dannflor(5) ~ catboi(81), Morning Tweet(58), skitter30(160), Starcrossed(246), Xtoxm(16)
lol is this dude getting bussed by the entire scum team

catboi tweetie xtoxm

flavor leaf really is the best town player of all time
How much experience do you have playing with Dann? I don’t think he’s scum here. That’s why I unvoted chk despite his bad vote on me.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:51 am

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fl i think catboi is towm
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:53 am

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In post 1666, chkflip wrote:I USE THE DANNFLOR PREVIOUS FOR MISELIM. HE SAME HE NO SCUMBUTT

VOTE: UNWND

THIS WAGON MAYBE BEST MAYBE SMELLS OF THE DOG

CARTOONS YOU CRAZY
uwndn is town
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:54 am

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In post 1667, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1664, Check One Two wrote:Your readslist isn't terrible, Flava, but I'd have these 4 bottom of my reads tbh

Gamma Emerald
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Titus
I don't like to put actual scum on the bottom day 1.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:54 am

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In post 1661, Check One Two wrote:Firebringer, I didn't recruit you so you could lurk and slack off. Come back in start makes some hard pushes on obvtown. Like what Pooky's doing.
yea you regret not recruiting me

imagine how many shitpushes I could be doing for you if my role pm was red :3
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:54 am

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In post 1669, skitter30 wrote:fl i think catboi is towm
more proof why catboi is a great pick :3
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:55 am

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In post 1656, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1574, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1075, Titus wrote:Ydrasse - Weak town
Gamma Emerald - Not memorable, but FL says town
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - Lean scum, no real presence of Nancy/Shiro. No cookies.
Morning Tweet - Can be town
Titus - Me
Xtoxm - No presence
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - Odd, weak scumlean but FL has a point of everyone SRing the slot
Hopkirk - Weak town
Lunar Martian - Needs more
chkflip - When will he arrive?
Dannflor - Weak town, stronger opening but fell off
Firebringer - Town
skitter30 - Town miller
unwnd - Town voting them upon request
RCEnigma - Weak scum
catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - Weak scum
Chara - Null

I tried to give a read on everyone. I want to get myself moving. Nothing's really strong though.
Still on same page stuff but Titus this reads list freaks me out a tiny bit. Mostly because you've played with me multiple times before and what the hell where on earth did you get that I had a strong opening from?

I don't even remember any of my own posts this game which is not a great sign!! So I'm just curious what exactly gave you strong vibes from me especially since you know I can do the surface level town stuff to at least some extent as scum.

And given I have no memory of my own posts and I was phone posting the whole time I doubt I did much more than poke at surface level stuff that caught my eye at the time

Also another point, I don't understand why you're doing this readslist. You have everyone at weak-something or null and some of these, like my read or the read on Starcrossed (which just says "odd" with no elaboration?) seem a bit like you're just tossing stuff out there. Which is fine if you're trying to get yourself going but I'm also not seeing you use this as a springboard to go in any specific direction. Like you're not trying to dig into why I "fell off," or what is odd about Starcrossed and why everyone seems to scum read them. You're just kinda throwing out what I can assume are fairly luke-warm takes and leaving it at that.

maybe you'll get more productive but this empty spinning-wheels sorta thing isn't the type of content I expect from you even to "get yourself started"
dann this post is weird and feels scummy to me :/
Dann is scum when he makes really suspicious pushes like he did on flaming obvtown TSE in PA. Dann voted him for really sus reasons.

He’s not a top tr and I really didn’t understand why he said what he did about the Titus’ readslist but I don’t understand why you’re necessarily sr him for it.
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