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okay infinity who is the scum then?

Pooky/tris/flea or something

opinions on flea?

also andres i’m sorry for getting really snippy with you, i’m just frustrated by your posting right now

In post 1652, Ydrasse wrote:opinions on flea?

I don't know how to read faer to begin with and this game fae is even weirder than normal

In post 1646, Ydrasse wrote:

In post 1643, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1641, Ydrasse wrote:holy fuck no i wouldn’t i’m literally telling you that me asking was independent of what i thought of you because fleas current stances didn’t match up with past ones given how obvious flea was with faes past opinions of your posting

This doesn’t square with you having a solve that was literally just me and no one else was even remotely suspicious. So what’s your stance now then?

clearly it’s “i don’t fucking know” and you’re making it really hard to actually try and engage when you’re sitting there going “look guys i was right i was the real solver” and then REFUSING TO ENGAGE WITH ME IN GOOD FAITH

Ah NOW I’m the one not engaging in good faith.

You all had a bad solve and put a shit vote down yesterday but I’m to blame. And now you’re reverting back to the “I don’t know” thing that got SirCakez executed quickly towards the end of the day.

Let me guess what’s going to happen, and let’s see if it plays out. You’re going to pretend to be angry at me for not “engaging your perspective” or some other nonsense, even though so far I haven’t actually been that off in terms of what I’ve been wanting to do and what I’ve said, and then when I flip Town you’ll blame me for being “confrontational” and “toxic”. But it really should be obvious that there’s a core group of players here getting away with not putting in any work, and really being super vague about what they want to do, until it’s convenient to reveal.

i literally don’t think you’re toxic and i said as much earlier and you’re refusing to like, fuck, give me a chance here and all i’ve seen you do is push this narrative against me when i’m literally doing the opposite andres

like i am literally trying here and i’m sorry i don’t have a solve slapped down on the table right now but this game is fucking dead and i’m here now trying and it’s like trying to claw something out of nothing

i thought you were scummy yesterday; i didn’t think too hard about anyone else because i was taking the game one step at the time when i had minimal energy to do so and posting in my games felt like a chore

cakez was something people settled on and i was lazy and said okay, sure, and yes i know that’s not a great way to play this game but it’s what happened and i’m trying now to figure shit out

jesus

In post 1656, Ydrasse wrote:i literally don’t think you’re toxic and i said as much earlier and you’re refusing to like, fuck, give me a chance here and all i’ve seen you do is push this narrative against me when i’m literally doing the opposite andres

When literally the entire game pushes you as Scum, then you’ll finally understand why I’m frustrated to still have people think it’s rational to put votes down on me (like Flea) or even bother to ask too much from the slots that have not been driving the game. One of those on the SirCakez wagon that made it into the original Team has to be Scum. We know this. So I would definitely like some of you to spend time actually thinking about that instead of attacking me for once.

like how do you want me to engage you when you’re getting 10 steps ahead of yourself trying to predict what you think i’ll say or do?

i’m literally not attacking you right now and i don’t know if you understand that

like, just, work with me a little bit please?

let’s assume for just a minute th at we’re both town slapfighting, that leaves alisae/tris/pooky

both pooky and alisae voted for this team; tris didn’t

do you think that it’s more likely to be tris getting by or pooky/alisae pushing themselves into the block. and if so, who?

gun to head i think pooky is the most likely to be scum, and alisae the least; this is going off of memory and not rereading

In post 1662, Ydrasse wrote:like, just, work with me a little bit please?

The problem is you aren’t saying anything. You don’t want to put anything in writing.

I’m not asking you for a solve. Fuck if I know who is Scum here. But I am asking you to think more critically. We need a bright light to shine on {tris, Alisae}. And well, you. Infinity to a lesser degree since they were excluded from the Team that was submitted. And the only way we’re going to figure out who is driving this bus is by probing there. Asking Flea for their progression on me seems really worthless.

In post 1664, Ydrasse wrote:gun to head i think pooky is the most likely to be scum, and alisae the least; this is going off of memory and not rereading

Then re-read. I think the exact reverse of this.

it’s not worthless to me especially given that they ended up with a vote on you regarding their progression; there is a maximum of 2 scum on my team and 3 town, and pushing out two of those town if both scum are in my pool is a game over. it was worthwhile to me to ask their progression and as it stands i think it is possible that their vote was the result of being called out on a weird reversal, but i’m not sure

if that is the case, and it’s 4 town / 1 scum in my team, they’re more incentivized to lim you if you’re town

i’ll reread alisae when i’m home, but from memory i felt that a lot of e’s posting was uninformed and jumping around, and from early game it was decent enough the way e came around on some reads

i need to check, but e looks worse if e pushed me after sha’s death, so i’ll look into that when i’m home

i have to clock back in, i’ll bbl

VOTE: Alisae

I’ll move my vote for now.

In post 1617, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1613, tris wrote:what are you doing today, andres?

Why do you trust my opinion?

why shouldnt i? why do you think i wouldn't?

i don't understand why you keep doing this thing where you immediately get pessimistic about things, like when you were acting like you were inevitably going to be excluded even tho there were a bunch of people who townread you. including me.

when have i indicated that your opinion doesn't matter???

In post 1618, Andresvmb wrote:And now we think it’s a good idea to let them debate who

outside

of the SirCakez wagon should get executed?

but this isn't what's happening. you're the only player off the wagon who could be a possible target today

In post 1620, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1579, Ydrasse wrote:flea, what's your progression on andres...? or better yet where, quote it for me?

i don't see anything obvious that explains why he no longer gives you overwhelmingly bad feelings

And we’re letting this fly? So Ydrasse thinks that I am the more reasonable execution after how yesterday went down? It’s really ridiculous that at this stage some of you would entertain this. And the reason being that Ydrasse, what, never executes Sha or something? It’s a joke.

i don't see where she's saying that. she's questioning flea, not casting judgement on you

In post 1621, Andresvmb wrote:Like if we don’t execute amongst {tris, Ydrasse, Alisae}, then we’re not thinking about the game in any way that makes any sense. One of them is Scum almost always. The Scum have not played with any urgency. That much is obvious to me. So, it implies that the Scum were either picked for both Teams or had a leadership position. If you all want to execute Pooky then we might as well just give up now.

some sort of thoughts along these lines keep bothering me, but at the same time, i have a hard time seeing either of them as scum.