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Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:21 am**

at this point i think you should vote me out because i think you'll learn a lot as a town

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:21 am**

DADDY?

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:21 am**

In post 1615, Andresvmb wrote:RMH’s defense that I’m being manipulative is just a cop out and you’re falling for it. They kept asking all these over the top questions about how could I possibly be coming from a Town mindset, but when asked directly why they’re bothering countering me so directly if they’re so sure they’re Scum, they don’t actually say what they very clearly mean.

My bad I thought Robert was talking to Andante, not you.
Andante I think is manipulative, you I haven't seen that, but you might be manipulating me to not see it who knows.

In post 1627, Andresvmb wrote:I didn’t suggest osuka ignore a SR. Or at least not entirely. It was more the way they were approaching it. If all you’re going to do is call the person you SR an idiot and quote their posts and say they’re the dumbest thing ever, how does that help anyone? I’m more than happy to read through interactions and understand points of view. What osuka was doing wasn’t helpful. I was trying to move away from that.

I don't read it like that but given I know how things type out at times to what you (people in general) mean I'll drop it and give benefit of the doubt regardless, since you are talking to your scum reads anyway.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:22 am**

VOTE: unvote

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:23 am**

Page 57,58,59,60,61

In post 1425, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1332, Andante wrote:PookyTheMagicalBear [4]: Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, InsidiousLemons
Look who was sitting on Pooky, who you’re defending. And look where Pooky’s vote is. How can you really not find the compromise vote onto T3 to be Scummy as all hell?

Who else do you scumread for sitting on this wagon except

Robert M Hunter

and

Save The Dragons

?

In post 1454, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 1451, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1449, Robert M Hunter wrote:I've been nothing but courteous, but at some point TONIGHT I've had enough being called a moron. Why are you misrepresenting?
I wasn’t talking about personal attacks. I was talking about the way in which you’ve approached my probing. It’s an immediate instinct to attack and deflect. Not to understand my point of view.
What probing? You'e done no probing, you just mindlessly call me scum. I'm supposed to "understand" your "point of view?" This isn't a therapy session. What could I possibly say that would satisfy you? "Oh yes Mr. Andres, I totally understand why you think I'm scum, here's your bill, see you next week!" or "I'll try to play in a way that corresponds more closely to your expectations of a townie, here's your bill, see you next week!"

This is lit!

In the meantime, from seeing the interaction between

Robert M Hunter

vs

Andresvmb

, I don't think they are TvT.

In post 1472, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1471, Robert M Hunter wrote:extreme super villains vs flawless super heroes, black and white

this is exactly how the game is

join team super villain

superheroes stink and are boring

I'm almost going to say

Spoiler:

but don't want to do that

In post 1476, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: SaveTheDragons

WTF!!!

In post 1505, VFP wrote:
In post 1279, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1277, Andante wrote:
In post 1273, Andresvmb wrote:I really would like to blow up Robert.

Sadly we're not getting the tracker today. Gonna have to find someone else who preferably isn't Pooky
They’re not a Tracker - that’s nonsense. I have never seen an actual Town PR Tracker blow their spot up so fast. That’s ridiculous.
And you have seen an Informed GS do so?

Good question.

PookyTheMagicalBear

's 1514: After billion years, this is your take??
1515: I don't townread

Green Crayons

.

In post 1520, VFP wrote:Game is pretty tragic and I just want to move on from day 1.

Pooky
Robert
Lemons
Asteria
Osuka
Salsabil

T3
- need more. Something makes me want to say town but I can't go into this.

Andante
- claiming plausible PR for town here. Just finished a game with scum GS and I just really hate the mind set this slot has. Probably just going to be town who i can't rely on with anything but results for late game.

Andres
- during the shit show catch up from last night Andre started to look town but by the end of it I just thought that they were noise. Maybe reading last night just looks bad on people where I shouldn't but I think closer to scum.

Anya
Save The Dragons
Green Crayons

I'd rather have all reads in the green or red for tomorrow the way this game is. So hopefully this changes before. However, as I said I won't be sad if we can move on.

Feel free to question any changes I've had.

Quoting this to think about it later (3).

In post 1521, T3 wrote:STD has been towntelling with the reaction. VFP is a strong tr of mine here. Asteria had a terrible reaction at the start of the day to an obvious RVS vote and only Anya seems to notice. I tr Pooky so I think I will leave my vote as-is.

Who do you townread atm and why?

Who do you scumread atm and why?

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:24 am**

Should we lim Salsa so they don't have a chance to think about my post?

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:29 am**

guys i think pooky might be town

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:30 am**

VOTE: andres i guess??? idfk anymore

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:30 am**

In post 1657, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: andres i guess??? idfk anymore

So we are actually going to end up doing the dance at the end.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:33 am**

like I might be willing to kill GCray at this point instead of STD if he does some serious thinking about whether I actually do this as scum

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:34 am**

i think its still wild that STD thinks Gcray is doing good things when I read his ISO and I can't find a single thing he's actually done.

like does anyone here even think GCray cares who gets eliminated today?

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:35 am**

In post 1660, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like does anyone here even think GCray cares who gets eliminated today?

I’ll say this - not a reason to TR btw, but I faced Green Crayons as Scum and their approach was just markedly different from their approach here. It’s the main reason I didn’t want to execute the slot yet.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:36 am**

In post 1660, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
like does anyone here even think GCray cares who gets eliminated today?

good point

VOTE: Crayons

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:40 am**

VOTE: Crayons

like I think at this point Crayons has higher scum equity than STD.

I can see this as Crayons stuck in the awkward place where he doesn't have a whole lot of ways to defend his scum buddy but he doesn't want to bus because he thinks STD can still talk his way out of it.

but I can also see Crayons are being WKnighty and not wanting to get his hands dirty in an STD!Town world.

So on the off chance STD is town which I think is kind of unlikely I can still see GCray getting the rope treatment today

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:42 am**

I’ll keep my vote where it is for now.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:43 am**

VOTE: Green Crayons
To keep help keep up the wagon.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:54 am**

Page 62,63,64

In post 1525, Andante wrote: Like.. what town explains the null instead of SRs wtf??

Point.

In post 1531, Andante wrote:Salsa... is your recap just bashing me? cause I'm not the elim today, so that's just gonna be wasting your time....

Am I just bashing you?? No, it's not gonna waste my time, it'll help me in the upcoming days cause Day 1 is going shit.

In post 1535, VFP wrote:
In post 1533, Andante wrote:hey VFP, 1 question, why is STD scum?
Playing for survival

I don't get it, town shouldn't play for survival??

In post 1566, Save The Dragons wrote:and salsa is my new favorite person

I'm betting my life here by thinking that you're a town, don't disappoint me....

In post 1541, T3 wrote:I DID state my reason for voting STD.
My current solve would be Asteria STD and Robert

Mention the post please? And what are the reasons behind scumreading

Asteria

and

Robert M Hunter

again?

In post 1577, VFP wrote:Dragon is probably town for actually being someone to not claim a PR
UNVOTE: Dragon

I like to know your thought process of scumreading

Save The Dragons

to townreading him atp.

In post 1581, Andante wrote:
In post 1577, VFP wrote:Dragon is probably town for actually being someone to not claim a PR
UNVOTE: Dragon

he literally can't claim a pr here... with GS and tracker out, it would be way too scummy.

I'm pretty sure if STD is town, VFP is scum trying to back off the wagon

Hmm.... not a bad thought process actually.

In post 1586, Andante wrote:Andres and VFP are 2 scum

Maybe.

In post 1587, Andante wrote:pooky and dragon are TvT

Not sure.

In post 1589, T3 wrote:VOTE: Asteria

Reason?

In post 1594, Andante wrote: no. 10 of those pages are easy to skim

Didn't want to skim.

In post 1599, Andante wrote:VOTE: Dragons

I'm keeping it, final decision. There was honestly no need to even claim VT and I hate VFP's defense for "omg the VT claim is so towny" bruh. if dragon claimed anything else he couldn't live past tomorrow. I'm not playing this game. VFP is going tomorrow if I'm alive

I want to see my face on the mirror if he flips scum, I want to see your face if he flips town.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:59 am**

@salsa, oh I'm pretty sure dragons is flipping town, but there was a big wagon on him so I wanted to see, like if anyone would quick vote STD while I had STD at E-1, and in the process VFP tried to create as much distance from STD as he could... but yeah, STD's slot is just complicated, I'm like too sure he's flipping town, it's great

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:04 am**

VOTE: Crayons

Reading Salsabil today convinced me that he's town.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:23 am**

In post 1666, Salsabil Faria wrote:I like to know your thought process of scumreading Save The Dragons to townreading him atp.

Thats already explained.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:25 am**

In post 1666, Salsabil Faria wrote:I don't get it, town shouldn't play for survival??

No you're playing to find scum as town.
It's your Wincon, lim all scum. At no point does it say survive.
Scum is basically the opposite.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:27 am**

In post 1670, VFP wrote:
In post 1666, Salsabil Faria wrote:I don't get it, town shouldn't play for survival??
No you're playing to find scum as town.
It's your Wincon, lim all scum. At no point does it say survive.
Scum is basically the opposite.

uhhh I played for survival...

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:28 am**

lol claiming PR on d1 is not really playing for survival <3

you are adoorable

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:29 am**

In post 1670, VFP wrote:
In post 1666, Salsabil Faria wrote:I don't get it, town shouldn't play for survival??
No you're playing to find scum as town.
It's your Wincon, lim all scum. At no point does it say survive.
Scum is basically the opposite.

This is absolutely correct. I don’t understand how this is even remotely controversial.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:31 am**

In post 1668, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: Crayons

Reading Salsabil today convinced me that he's town.

This is all the proof I need that GC is going to flip Town. I was just waiting for it.

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