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Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 10:52 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1520, Thestatusquo wrote:In my experience this is a statement mostly made by scum but frequently made by town as well.
Feels more often by town, in my experience. Can't think of any examples though, so I may be wrong there.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 12:14 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 1649, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1515, Ircher wrote:For the claim or for a different reason. At this point, I'm leaning towards early game claims are NAI for Toogeloo.
For the claim. Has Toogeloo D1 claimed as scum?
I claimed 3P Survivor unprompted as mafia on Day 1. I don't always claim out the gate. I do crumb in most games if I didn't claim though. The few times I don't is when claims don't matter.

In my most recent scum game, I was Mafia Gunsmith and crumbed in my first post to go back and claim Town Gunsmith eventually. I ended up realizing that claim was detrimental and never fell back on the crumb.

My Mafia to Town game ratio is pretty lop sided in favor of Town, probably about 1:5 or 1:6.

I would agree with Ircher however that me claiming D1 unprompted should be considered NAI, especially I know that I would do it regardless, or try to include crumbs regardless.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 12:16 pm
by Toogeloo
Feel free to look at my wiki. It has every game I've ever played on MS.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 12:19 pm
by Toogeloo
Pay no attention to my Mafia Aligned win percentage... Please.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:06 pm
by Anya
the koala's won 10/13 mafia games and this is very concerning we should kill him just to be safe

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:07 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1651, Toogeloo wrote:I claimed 3P Survivor unprompted as mafia on Day 1.
Link?

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:09 pm
by Sigmund
In post 1555, morph the cat wrote:Sigmund you're breaking my heart.

I even polished my dancing shoes.
My abs would make a Greek God Cry.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:12 pm
by Anya
VOTE: whemestar transcribes text but i have no idea why he transcribes what he does

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:13 pm
by Anya
In post 1508, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1472, notscience wrote:Like how did everyone else ignore that the single two worst votes of the game were on me

Whemes literally read like he knew I was town lmao
yah I voted you because I hate your fake post restriciton an cant read ur posts
admitting to a crime doesn't make it legal

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:24 pm
by morph the cat
In post 1656, Sigmund wrote:
In post 1555, morph the cat wrote:Sigmund you're breaking my heart.

I even polished my dancing shoes.
My abs would make a Greek God Cry.
The last time I encountered such an entrenched gimmick he turned out to be a white mage and the highlight of a real slog of a game.

he was a replace-in and got to skate on the short but impressive tenure of his predecessor.

I'm afraid you don't have that to skate on. :/

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:28 pm
by Bell
Can we talk about how much I hate the Wheme wagon.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:30 pm
by morph the cat
In post 1660, Bell wrote:Can we talk about how much I hate the Wheme wagon.
Yes. Yes, you can.

We're not impressed with it either.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:38 pm
by Anya
1508 reads too strong for a previously naked vote which is where the annoyance should've been placed looks like he's up on the stage

also it could be a wolf trying to look intimidating to another wolf so we don't think think they're actually best buds but he's overdoing it

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:39 pm
by Bell
Cool.
Everyone on that wagon get off Wheme's wagon.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:45 pm
by Bell
You guys gotta vote better.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 1:50 pm
by White Fire
so is the not mafia in playerlist a mechanic in game.
if so i want to see what it does

VOTE: Not mafia

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:03 pm
by WhemeStar
In post 1660, Bell wrote:Can we talk about how much I hate the Wheme wagon.
Im not really impressed with it as well but for different reasons. I like when wagons get formed on me because part of how I get reads is looking at who votes me and for what reason and who doesn't vote me and for what reason. Wasn't really able to do it with this one besides Titus.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:09 pm
by WhemeStar
In post 1648, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1636, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1560, morph the cat wrote:Bell do you have an S_S read?

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Wheme

You've expressed townreads of Toog and Titus. You've voted (in order) Farkran, Anya, notsci, and whitefire. (plus Bingle, but that looked like a sheep vote)

Did you change votes because you stopped scumreading the previous vote? because the next vote was a stronger scumread? because another wagon looked like it was stronger? Some other reason?

You said something about wanting to townread some players but fearing you'd be wrong(?). Who are the players you're concerned look town but might not be?
I like hopping my votes around to different people when I play. I don't have many strong scumreads yet at all though. Hopefully my votes/people voting me help me find stronger reads. I didn't like Farkrans iso so I voted him. Anya's posts just seemed like coasting/ LHF scum but apparently that's how they always post/play. WhiteFire is actually a scumread of mine because I think this is is how scum firebringer plays even though Im not totally experienced with scum fire. Players im concerned about are you/TSQ/Lady currently.
What did you dislike about Farkran's iso?

I'm not sure what the "this" is in FB's play.

So us/TSQ/LLD are paranoia reads? Are there specific things in our play that concern you?

It may feel like it, but I'm not trying to nitpick you to pieces here. I'm trying to get inside how you're processing the game.
At the time when I voted farkran it looked too me like he was just trying to throw out soft reads and didn't really want to commit to anything. Like he didn't want to try scum hunting. Thinking back on it now though I can see reasons on why you wouldn't want to scumhunt as some people try to townhunt day 1 and then use poe for following days but I don't know how he plays.

Im paranoid of you because I respect your guys's game. I can't help but think you guys are playing similar to when I was mafia with you even though I think youre town here. I think im just scared that your mafia game is good that you can make me think your town easily but maybe I have the wrong idea on your game because you guys got caught pretty early by Pooky in the abandoned one.

TSQ I think spews town currently but others think hes scum for some reason. Ive had previous games with him im pretty sure but nothing I can remember about his play. Theres nothing in this game of his that sticks out to me as being scummy but others seem to think so? Maybe they have more experience with him im not sure.

LLD I think gets super emotional and I just townread people for that. I haven't checked yet but I THINK they also do as scum so its something im a little worried about but I just end up townreading emotional people. (Not AtE emotion but angry emotion)

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:09 pm
by WhemeStar
Also thanks for asking me so many questions it makes it easier to get my thoughts out which is what I think I struggle with the most in this game.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:11 pm
by WhemeStar
Oh I forgot to respond to the FB thing.

I think as scum FB tries to coast but say things like " this person scummy" or "vote this person" and stuff like that. Im pretty sure thats how scum fire plays the game. I think people townread him for doing that stuff but im not sure why.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:13 pm
by White Fire
u should vote not mafia wheme

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:14 pm
by Titus
LLD is fully capable of being angry as scum. See Tenet for a recent example.

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:14 pm
by White Fire
just let the game sort LLD. if LLD is alive and its day 4. then we can cross the bridge of worrying about it

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:15 pm
by White Fire
dodging the necessity to read people is my specialty

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:16 pm
by WhemeStar
Sure VOTE: not mafia