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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:57 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
At least Dunn was VT. Kinda surprised by how fast that came together, we weren't really at deadline yet were we? Feel like there was at least a day left

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:10 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
VOTE: DGB

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:33 pm
by Gypyx
votecount 2.1
VFP (1) :
Petapan
T3 (1) :
Save The Dragons
ChaosOmega (1) :
Titus
Petapan (1) :
Rathe
Andresvmb (1) :
Dwlee99
DrippingGoofball (1) :
ssbm_Kyouko


Not voting (9) :
Anya - T3 - ChaosOmega - Dragon of the West - Andresvmb - Vaxkiller - DrippingGoofball - VFP - osuka

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-06-23 17:23:11)
, with 15 alive, it takes 8 to slap someone


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flavor
video number 1138
content - litterally a movie
would recommend? - quite long one lol

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:50 pm
by Anya
VOTE: goofballs

scared of the cane

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:19 pm
by Dwlee99
VOTE: DGB
I'm still good with this.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:50 am
by ChaosOmega
VOTE: T3

The progression from to /1614/1615 reads as forced. You scumread me for my point about Dunn, but don't know enough about his posting history to be shocked about it and vote him to push the wagon across the line. With the later posts as context, 1583 reads more like scum jumping on my wagon than town trying to sort me and making a read.

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Titus, any response to ? I'm more interested in the 2nd part.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:52 am
by T3
In post 1655, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: T3

The progression from to /1614/1615 reads as forced. You scumread me for my point about Dunn, but don't know enough about his posting history to be shocked about it and vote him to push the wagon across the line. With the later posts as context, 1583 reads more like scum jumping on my wagon than town trying to sort me and making a read.

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Titus, any response to ? I'm more interested in the 2nd part.
In mymind he was just a low poster.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:02 am
by ChaosOmega
Alright, I want to try to gauge your mindset here:

- After reading Dunn's ISO in 1612, is my less scummy, equally scummy, or more scummy?
- When you voted Dunn, was it a compromise vote to get an elimination through because he was the leading wagon, or did you scumread him from his low activity?

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:15 am
by T3
In post 1657, ChaosOmega wrote:Alright, I want to try to gauge your mindset here:

- After reading Dunn's ISO in 1612, is my less scummy, equally scummy, or more scummy?
- When you voted Dunn, was it a compromise vote to get an elimination through because he was the leading wagon, or did you scumread him from his low activity?
Mainly a compromise vote.
Less scummy, I didn't entirely get the point you were making.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:21 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 1651, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:VOTE: DGB
In post 1653, Anya wrote:VOTE: goofballs

scared of the cane
In post 1654, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: DGB
I'm still good with this.
In post 870, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't want to think about the neighbors right now.
In post 882, Dwlee99 wrote:I think claiming the hood early is the best thing to do as town unless you can convince me otherwise.
In post 964, Dwlee99 wrote:Anya I've been convinced, throw DGB on the pile of people I'm willing to lim.
Wondering if you think Kyo is scummy? You've really done your best to avoid talking about the neighbors but seem to side with Anya easily. That tracks with your thought process that claiming neighbors is a town play...but the rest of these actions don't follow because in you say there's probably scum in neighborhoods.

VOTE: Dwlee

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:31 am
by Dwlee99
I don't really think that Kyo is scummy and I think Anya is townie. Anya seems to believe that Kyo is good so that's good enough for me right now.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:35 am
by Titus
In post 1587, ChaosOmega wrote:
In post 1584, Titus wrote:In general, if there's activity and nothing negative, I put the slot as town as the majority of players are town. I just don’t see a reason for a Dunn wagon.

Now that you're beetlejuicing and wagoned Dunn springs up.
So your baseline for activity is posting more than literally nothing?

I don't know what you're implying with the 2nd part. What is the relationship between my entrance to the game and the Dunn wagon? I mean, I voted for Dunn, so there's a connection in that respect, but it seems like there's something else you mean with this.
The Dunn wagon sprung up after you beetlejuiced.

My answer isn't going to change because you reask Omega.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:36 am
by Titus
DGB is still a shit wagon too.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:39 am
by Dragon of the West
Oops I meant to link not 880.

But they haven't done or explained anything. And for some reason that's good enough for everyone. You're jumping on a bad wagon, DGB is town

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:40 am
by Dragon of the West
^ that is @Dwlee

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:42 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1663, Dragon of the West wrote:Oops I meant to link not 880.

But they haven't done or explained anything. And for some reason that's good enough for everyone. You're jumping on a bad wagon, DGB is town
My was in response to which I took as a good reason to scumread DGB. I'm willing to vote Andre if there's momentum for that.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:53 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 937, Dwlee99 wrote:DGB keeps disagreeing with me on the most random and stupid mechanical stuff and I think it is just DGB indicative rather than alignment.
You were right here

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:59 am
by Dragon of the West
I just take issue that for the past 800 posts you've been stuck on DGB and Andre but even those reads don't seem to have a ton of conviction. DGB just bothers you and Andre you've just said is lurky. The only other scum read I remember you mentioning is you'd be "willing to compromise" on voting Rathe. You don't want to touch the hood and in your own words you've had a hard time reading the active posters. Bleh I don't like it and the DGB wagon is so bad

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:08 am
by Titus
In post 1667, Dragon of the West wrote:I just take issue that for the past 800 posts you've been stuck on DGB and Andre but even those reads don't seem to have a ton of conviction. DGB just bothers you and Andre you've just said is lurky. The only other scum read I remember you mentioning is you'd be "willing to compromise" on voting Rathe. You don't want to touch the hood and in your own words you've had a hard time reading the active posters. Bleh I don't like it and the DGB wagon is so bad
I like this and I want to see more from the hood today.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:25 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1667, Dragon of the West wrote:even those reads don't seem to have a ton of conviction
Correct. i don't have strong reads right now.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:15 am
by ChaosOmega
In post 1661, Titus wrote:
In post 1587, ChaosOmega wrote:
In post 1584, Titus wrote:In general, if there's activity and nothing negative, I put the slot as town as the majority of players are town. I just don’t see a reason for a Dunn wagon.

Now that you're beetlejuicing and wagoned Dunn springs up.
So your baseline for activity is posting more than literally nothing?

I don't know what you're implying with the 2nd part. What is the relationship between my entrance to the game and the Dunn wagon? I mean, I voted for Dunn, so there's a connection in that respect, but it seems like there's something else you mean with this.
The Dunn wagon sprung up after you beetlejuiced.

My answer isn't going to change because you reask Omega.
Ok, let me ask a different way. Things can happen close together in a game and be unrelated. I am aware the Dunn wagon happened after I posted in the game initially because I can read and understand the passage of time. The way you're talking about them implies a causal link between the two. Go into how the two things are related and what that means.

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T3: Who is your top scumread and why aren't you voting them?

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:25 am
by VFP
In post 1648, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 1627, VFP wrote:However, I don't think they target Nero as a protective PR, meaning that this wasn't a consideration when killing and most likely means Titus is lying
Can you explain what you're saying like I'm an idiot?

You think Titus is lying about being a babysitter enabler because he's scum, meaning the scum team knows he's lying, and therefore don't hunt for a protective role with their kill? If I have that thought process right, what about Nero's slot makes you think scum wouldn't kill there looking for a protective role?

Alternate scenario: what if Titus is town so scum believe his role claim and then kill someone that they think wouldn't protect any of the mafia since that would mean risking a scum death
I'm talking more about the scum risk of Nero being protected.
Nero was one of the top vocal voices day 1. Regardless he was a good babysit action to target, or at least in the pool.
Scum killing Nero means that they didn't take this into consideration.

Nero pushing Titus also shows that he wasn't a babysitter.
If Titus is telling the truth and there is 1+ babysitters then why are scum not looking for 2 kills over 1?
Unless of course, they are worried that the babysitter would protect them.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:34 am
by Titus
That's absurd. Scum don't target lurkers or scummy slots because a protective role might be in the game. Nero wasn't a vocal voice anyway. All he did was accuse me of strategic vla. If I was a vig, I would have vigged him. He should have been force replaced for that but the mods don't feel it's a violation so I stopped reporting it.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:51 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1672, Titus wrote:All he did was accuse me of strategic vla.
I don't think this is an accurate retelling of what happened?

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:05 am
by VFP
In post 1351, Nero Cain wrote:Don't really want to suggest that Titus went v/la just b/c she is scum as she's prob busy IRL and that has nothing to do with her scum pm here but going v/la for the rest of the day phase and not unvoting seems kinda ass.
Actually quite the opposite.