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Okay, Rogue has been in quick hammer range for the last 12 hours, and Ivan, T3, and Mastina have all been online since then, and no quick hammer has happened.

So, from my pov, that means he is now confirmed scum. My vote won't be leaving. You guys can hammer him when ever you want at this point, unless someone has anything they want to discuss before the day is over?

I don't have anything else to say really.

In post 1646, That Idiot Ivan wrote:and that you hitting all the notes on me you used to back in 2013-2014 is just a coincidence.

Uh you are aware that my meta changes over time, right?

I mean to some extent it's cyclical and even the flowchart is out of date, but like. A lot of the things in there still hold true.

I believe the flowchart notes for instance that my towngames have become a lot more logical?

I might've even included a note on how scumastina is far more of a lurksack these days and town-me is more active.

But like. My townplay these days is the scumplay of old; my scumplay these days is the worst of my towngame of old. (There was an era when town-me was incredibly inactive, prod dodging, producing no content, etc. I remember one mini modded by Jake from State Farm where I literally did nothing, and Antihero's og Chemistry game where I literally did nothing. So there was an era of town-me from about back then when I did literally nothing as town, but that's my scumgame these days.)

If you want a look at what scumastina has been as of late:
This was the first of the modern scumastina.
I then immediately/concurrently to that? Got this game which pretty much killed my will to play scum forever.

Now, I did get vaguely close to a good scumgame, but you can clearly tell that even that's not peak scumastina and obviously not town-me, and it was temporary; I regressed again to my obvscum self quickly.

Case and point, obvscum zero-motivation scumastina.

And it even got worse than that.

Down to this level.

This is genuinely my skill cap as scum, what scumastina is capable of these days.

In contrast,
This is what my town games as of late.
You can really see the huge difference in my play when I am given a town alignment. It really shows strongly in my play that I have received a town role PM in my towngames.

It's genuinely as simple as "if mastina is invested in the game, trying, and posting, with the posts as content rather than prodges and fluff/filler, she's town". There's nuances to it as well; scumastina can't get angry whereas town me can. And town mastina is passionate whereas scumastina's "passion" comes across as exactly what it is, faked stilted and artificial.

But this is never my scumgame.

When I said that everyone should know that this is my towngame.

I meant it.

Because the difference between my towngame and my scumgame is literally night and day. This be my scumgame, because I'm literally not capable of doing this as scum. It's literally impossible.

Yes, it was within my skill circa 2013-2014. Peak scumastina era. Nothing was out of my scum range back then; I could genuinely do anything back then as scum and my scumgame was much better than my towngame.

But things change. I just lost my moxie/mojo/whatever you want to call it. Lost my spark. Lost my desire, lost my interest, whatever. For playing scum. So I just...can't play scum.

I should be conftown but I shouldn't to be conftown in order to still be obvtown.

Honestly? I don't really care about your giant wall of 'I never do this as scum' stuff. It's very clear that I'm not going to carry the day on that one, and it works out for me either way. If T3 is scum, we win tomorrow and I'll take the W. If you're scum, I get to be right (which some days is Even Better than winning) and such.

I suspect Rogue is going to lurk this out. Consider my vote ready to go there when everyone is done chatting. Last thoughts from SM would be especially appreciated.

Well, obviously that Rogue is probably made a gambit here since I highly doubt that two poisons happened last night plus they really haven't really said anything that really changes how I feel about that slot currently.

Though I'm genuinely wondering, what was Bombay's result that they got from their watcher?

Guys help me I forgot the login. XOXO.

In post 1654, StrangeMatter wrote:Though I'm genuinely wondering, what was Bombay's result that they got from their watcher?

That Shiro visited Mastina.

In post 1654, StrangeMatter wrote:Though I'm genuinely wondering, what was Bombay's result that they got from their watcher?

Oh, sorry. I thought I already said.

We watched Mastina last night. I thought she might be loyal still based off of something that Mastina said to LLD, so I wanted to watch her to see if there was any funny business with a roleblocker possibly messing up her result. Especially since LLD was role blocked. Turns out she was not even loyal though. :/

My result was that I saw Shiro, and only Shiro, visit her.

I was vague about my results at the start of the day, because I wanted to force everyone to true claim where they went during the night (see Rogue admitting to visiting you).

I was a little confused by my result, because I did not think that Shiro had a targeting move anymore. I did not know about her hiding ability, and Ivan said her loyalizer was one shot in the hood.

I got double confused once you said you roleblocked Shiro, which is why I asked you a couple questions at the start of the day about it.

At that point I was mildly worried that you lied about your target, so I got Ivan to tell me Shiro's role in the hood. But with her being a hider, everything checked out.

AHAHAH TELL ME THE PASSWORD QUEEN PLS

In post 1655, marcistar wrote:Guys help me I forgot the login. XOXO.

In post 1654, StrangeMatter wrote:Though I'm genuinely wondering, what was Bombay's result that they got from their watcher?

That Shiro visited Mastina.

I just sent it to you

On discord.

IM A CLOWN HOLD ON

In post 1656, The Bombay wrote:At that point I was mildly worried that you lied about your target, so I got Ivan to tell me Shiro's role in the hood. But with her being a hider, everything checked out.

This is also what lead to me revealing who I watched in the hood. Looking back, I wish I had waited for T3 to state who he targeted first. But I had a confusing thing, and I was distracted trying to piece things together.

Okay fellas all is right in the world again.

Nasty how my thunder got stolen though.

Actually, I think there's an attached part to the poison that I was given that I hadn't thought about until now. Speculation here but I remember specifically that LLD mentioned she got roleblocked and poisoned, with me having the exact same flavor of poison probably means that my action would've failed since I'm very sure scum role blockers take priority over Jailkeeper.

Can you give your two cents on tomorrow's elim? Pool is {me, T3, mastina} barring massive shenanigans IMHO.

Mastina's more likely to be town here, that push on you specifically doesn't make a lot of sense to keep pushing as scum IMO. They would've likely moved off and looked elsewhere to push and hopefully get an elimination on someone else from what I believe they would do as scum.

T3 I have almost no clue on their alignment but I looked at what others have to say and it doesn't sit right with me. A lot of the things people have said just make me paranoid he's just a red herring to get eliminated tomorrow by way of an easy elimination. But every time I look at the other two slots I wonder if I'm really just overthinking this game.

I personally find it hard to believe Ivan is scum either from what they claimed at this point in the game and the analysis that they gave in the private thread that while not impossible to make from a deepwolfing scum just doesn't give me the same vibe as someone who hits all the right beats and looks pro-town for the sake of being pro town.

Also, I'd like to admit my reads are comparably worse than most other people so take that with a grain of salt.

I assume Shiro is good to go. If I get confirmation of that, I'll vote. Just waiting on anything anyone else has to say, but it's pretty dead, so.

Just go for it Ivan, I do not think the gamestate can change at this point