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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:41 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
In post 1585, Enchant wrote:Aw shit. Here we go again.
Look, likelyhood of Somnus being town is already high.
No one scumread Goldfish for real, and only idea is "Let's kill Goldfish because null, if we are wrong, we get conftown anyway and can protect him!". Conftowning person who is already town is kiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda dumb, especially because with idea "Why not, we can protect him!".
It's just not worth it mechanically, unless there's like 80%+ chance of goldfish being mafia, and i am pretty confident that Goldfish is Town than not, but that's me (i can't provide reasonable explainings).
Even if Goldfish is mafia (which can be possible, like anything possible), it may be even benefiting to ignore him for a moment, where we are unsure. I strongly believe that he turns obvious lategame, and this way Somnus will be alive as well, which easies game a bit.
In unpredicted case, where Somnus and Goldfish both mafs (Which i am 99% sure NOT a case, but still), i still belive it's worth to watch them, not risk likelytowns just for sake of risk.
In post 1592, Enchant wrote:You are not in right to answer me questions like these, nor they gonna help.
I don't care, how much or how less you contributed (this question i ask you is actually irony), nor you should care how much i did, you need to think if i am town or not and ask questions about ppl. I can as well look whole game, say "oh yes, it's scummy and this is not", make readlist, many things. They are easily fakeble. Ironically, in every game where i was maf, i could just made readlist and turn townread for everyone, just because. Idk why, i never understand this, probably people just like these things.
Your work also meaningless, because if you are town, then you wasted all time to push me, another town. So while you of course wasted more time on this, you achieved same thing as me. Nothing. Maybe even negative. So ironically, i have more BPP (Benefit Per Post), wasting less effort and achieved same results.
Science. You can think about purpose of life of something, i am busy.
I’m not feeling Enchant scum here.
~N
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:55 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Who do you think is scum rn, Nancy?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:22 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:25 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
I feel very confident on Somnus, you, Penguin and probably NM town.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:31 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:33 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
Can you elaborate on all of these reads?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:37 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1654, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.
I don’t really read Enchant on content, I read him on vibes. He’s given me more of a scum vibe than a town vibe but if the data supports your theory I’m willing to go with it. But unless a suspect comes up that’s better than either of Jake/Enchant, I’d rather vote out Enchant today because I feel like leaving Jake alive might tell us more if he is scum.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:45 pm
by Don Draper x Mistress
In post 1656, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1654, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.
I don’t really read Enchant on content, I read him on vibes. He’s given me more of a scum vibe than a town vibe but if the data supports your theory I’m willing to go with it. But unless a suspect comes up that’s better than either of Jake/Enchant, I’d rather vote out Enchant today because I feel like leaving Jake alive might tell us more if he is scum.
Well, I can only go from Anything uPick, Chromavalon and PYP and don’t recall any of the types of posts I just mentioned.
So this is one of the main reasons a goldfish replace in would be great because how I read that slot would possibly tell us a lot about Enchant.
What info do you think you’d get from a scum!Jake?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:51 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Well, he posted legitimate thought on the content that was around before he was in the game. If he continues doing so with future content, that can be read into to find partners presumably.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:19 pm
by Bellaphant
@don, those aren't all scum.reads, and I don't think all the scum is in there, but they are my slots with the least coherent takes.
Nm I'm just struggling with.
Enchant and Jake both seem scummy: but Jake's hit rate of engagement/progression feels higher than enchants, even though enchant is making some good posts.
Pp I've just got nothing from. I often find those 'grey' slots in my mind end up flipping scum
And goldfish I've spoken about a lot.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:29 pm
by Bellaphant
Also, in terms of 'meta', enchants been scum when I've been town a lot recently and seems to have two modes as scum: absent, or shit posty. He was very different in cultists, but he had a confirmable pr to rely on and I do wonder if that changed his approach.
I've also read two of frogs, and wanted to elim him immediately in both (he was town). I don't think I've read any of Jakies.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:34 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 1649, Don Draper x Mistress wrote: In post 1632, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Since I'm up on the spotlight, here's my current readlist:
Jake The Wolfie
NorwegianboyEE
Not_Mafia
Somnus
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Gamma Emerald
Bellaphant
GoldfishFromTheMoon
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BlueBloodedToffee
PenguinPower
Enchant
You forgot us.
Also why is goldfish grey?
~Nancy
Jake The Wolfie
NorwegianboyEE
Not_Mafia
Somnus
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Gamma Emerald
Bellaphant
Nancy and Friend
GoldfishFromTheMoon
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BlueBloodedToffee
PenguinPower
Enchant
Goldfish is grey for the same reason Enchant is Red and I am green, it's just a good place to plop a "true neutral" point, mainly because there's far too little they've done so far to be considered either town or scum.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:53 pm
by Enchant
So you really think Penguin and BBT are my teammates bussing me?
... Good luck with that.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:20 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 1662, Enchant wrote:So you really think Penguin and BBT are my teammates bussing me?
... Good luck with that.
I did not construct my list taking this into account, I constructed it through what I have seen in the game.
also bbt is voting me
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:30 pm
by Enchant
So you just randomly pick people and force them in scumteam?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:40 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
I didn't take teambuilding into account in that readlist.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:43 pm
by Enchant
That's problem, because main difference between town and mafia is team.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:54 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
Even so, those players are suspicious and more likely to be Mafia.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 pm
by Enchant
How
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Finding a team is hard enough with 1 already flipped scum.
Finding a team with 0 is not easy.
Criticizing because Jake isn’t presenting an exact scum team in their reads is bad.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:07 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In short-
You have been mostly wind and not much productivity.
BBT has been generally inconsistent, with the most recent example being voting someone they consider to be town.
PP is just generally absent and unengaged in the game, mostly pinging off of others rather than coming up with their own ideas. To their credit, they have done things which should be merited.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:08 pm
by Enchant
Didn't ask you, web
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:11 pm
by Enchant
Idk, ppl change their mind, i hammered my townreads so many times in moment of doubt, i can addure
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:12 pm
by Enchant
Remind me, why i stopped accusing Norwee
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:15 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 1672, Enchant wrote:Idk, ppl change their mind, i hammered my townreads so many times in moment of doubt, i can addure
Do you believe that BBT did any of these things prior to their vote on me?