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RadiantCowbells, Alisae, Leonshade, nancy
Nero Cain, CloudKicker, Creature
Lil Uzi Vert

MathBlade, Caesar Wills It, davesaz, NoticeMeSenpai, Vecna, Gorkington

Oh Math is town maybe if I do what they ask they'll town read me forever.

In post 16539, RadiantCowbells wrote:We were town together and I carried you in the werewolf themed large: so no. I also defended you in that game.

bro I was scum reading like half the scum team. This game is no different. You also didn't defend me.

The choices just seem suboptimal for Jae and they're not giving good enough reasons of why they think they'd be night killed.

In post 16546, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Like nancy this was my notes on you in Death Trap

nancy subs in
Oh this is the player so and so told me about
I should hard town read them and attempt to buddy

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That was it. I wasn't trying to read you.

I don't think that means you don't know what my Town game looks like? You knew that I was Town and therefore could recognize every little behavior pattern right from the start as coming from Town. You should've been pretty familiar with it by the time you replaced out.

In post 16542, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yes but this is another side of Pine. An alter-ego he's put on. What experience does Mastina have with Ceasar?

See I just don't buy that. We had a town block during D1 that was okay at best and it was destroyed. I don't see how you thought you could successfully attempt to start another one considering how easily the first one was destroyed.

...Reread that first paragraph and understand you sound like an utter moron, please. Roleplaying a bit for your speech patterns does not make you an entirely different person in how you read the gamestate. Like, what the fuck are you smoking dude? I want some.

I mean I'm not the one necessarily doing the building, and the D1 block was artificially built. Town blocks should always form naturally. The D1 one didn't, it was a result of Titus strongarming it. That's not a true townblock.

a hole hellva lot of good the hoods have done us...

Lol what? You have to throw everything you know about Pine out the window when it comes to Ceasar.

Why do people make alts? They want to be like someone else and the proper thing is to not read them on their main.

In post 16556, Nero Cain wrote:a hole hellva lot of good the hoods have done us...

I got four town reads. Seems good to me.

In post 16544, MathBlade wrote:Yeah. Agreed townblocks when used carefully are good.

Who is your town block?

{Math, Alisae, Creature, LUV, Caesar, RC}

The mutual suspicions in the block help to keep scum from coasting, but I am certain all these are town.

In post 16554, nancy wrote:

In post 16546, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Like nancy this was my notes on you in Death Trap

nancy subs in
Oh this is the player so and so told me about
I should hard town read them and attempt to buddy

--

That was it. I wasn't trying to read you.

I don't think that means you don't know what my Town game looks like? You knew that I was Town and therefore could recognize every little behavior pattern right from the start as coming from Town. You should've been pretty familiar with it by the time you replaced out.

Yes I know what it's like but you have done some scummy things. Those outweigh meta and as you said, meta is unreliable!

In post 16559, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:

In post 16544, MathBlade wrote:Yeah. Agreed townblocks when used carefully are good.

Who is your town block?

{Math, Alisae, Creature, LUV, Caesar, RC}

The mutual suspicions in the block help to keep scum from coasting, but I am certain all these are town.

LUV I disagree with. Everything else I could do.

No like what is that even? He clearly wants to be read based on how he's playing this character, not on Pine the actual person.

The fact that you think I'm high is baffling because you should understand where I'm coming from.

What has Ceasar, not Pine, has done to be night killed?

This isn't a hydra, this is a character he's putting on that he clearly wants people to try to read.

In post 16545, MathBlade wrote:Who is your scum team BaeReed?

Not entirely sure. I don't do so well at doing associations (when I do pre-flips I almost always end up lynching town or causing town to be lynched) than I do individual scumreads then I work from there with VCA after a scum flip to find who to look at next. Then I look at their behaviour around the scumfirm. I'm missing that puzzle piece here. Individual scumreads are Vecna, Leonshade (maybe, but not paired with Nero), Nero (maybe but I have reservations for certain reasons I can't describe so we'll call those reservations gut for now), nancy (I always misread her though so I'm not sure, and I don't think she's partnered with Leon).

So I guess more likely there is Vecna/Nero/nancy/x/x? With the x's most likely being in my not lock towns somewhere?

In post 16560, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yes I know what it's like but you have done some scummy things. Those outweigh meta and as you said, meta is unreliable!

What have I done that's scummy? Actually, forget scummy, Town can be scummy just like they can be anti-town. What have I done that's scum indicative? There is no case on me except conf!bias. Meta is not reliable, but to ignore it entirely is foolish and not in the spirit of the quote in my sig.

In post 16561, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16559, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:

In post 16544, MathBlade wrote:Yeah. Agreed townblocks when used carefully are good.

Who is your town block?

{Math, Alisae, Creature, LUV, Caesar, RC}

The mutual suspicions in the block help to keep scum from coasting, but I am certain all these are town.

LUV I disagree with. Everything else I could do.

I'll try to explain in a different way.

I don't think Vecna meta clears LUV early D1 if they're scum together. I believe it could have been an attempt to pocket him more than anything.
I don't believe LUV allows Vecna to meta clear him early D1 if they're scum together either. It seems like the perfect point to fake paranoia at a partner if anything and he didn't take that.

Therefore I don't believe LUV and Vecna are scum together.

Is my logic not solid?

In post 16566, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:

In post 16545, MathBlade wrote:Who is your scum team BaeReed?

Not entirely sure. I don't do so well at doing associations (when I do pre-flips I almost always end up lynching town or causing town to be lynched) than I do individual scumreads then I work from there with VCA after a scum flip to find who to look at next. Then I look at their behaviour around the scumfirm. I'm missing that puzzle piece here. Individual scumreads are Vecna, Leonshade (maybe, but not paired with Nero), Nero (maybe but I have reservations for certain reasons I can't describe so we'll call those reservations gut for now), nancy (I always misread her though so I'm not sure, and I don't think she's partnered with Leon).

So I guess more likely there is Vecna/Nero/nancy/x/x? With the x's most likely being in my not lock towns somewhere?

You're scumreading me? Please reset and go through your reasoning again here, Notice. There is no possible chance of me being scum with Nero, for starters.

In post 16567, nancy wrote:

In post 16560, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yes I know what it's like but you have done some scummy things. Those outweigh meta and as you said, meta is unreliable!

What have I done that's scummy? Actually, forget scummy, Town can be scummy just like they can be anti-town. What have I done that's scum indicative? There is no case on me except conf!bias. Meta is not reliable, but to ignore it entirely is foolish and not in the spirit of the quote in my sig.

I've already explained this and don't want to do it again

Mastina, pretend I'm Gin. Make an exception and explain yourself

Then link me to the posts in your ISO?

That is work. Listen I'm town, just trust me.

In post 16569, nancy wrote:You're scumreading me? Please reset and go through your reasoning again here, Notice. There is no possible chance of me being scum with Nero, for starters.

There's actually no way that I can be scum with Leonshade or Vecna, either.