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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:52 am
by PeregrineV
Vote Count 2-7

(as of Post 1674)



Pine (7)
- Maxous, scooby, Kublai Kahn, Benmage, The Mini-Librarian, drmyshotgun, DeasVail
Junpei (4)
- mastin2, HezLucky, Lady Lambdadelta, Nero Cain
mastin2 (3)
- Pine, Junpei, Code_X
The Mini-Librarian (2)
- StrangerCoug, Psyche
redFF (1)
- drmyshottyizsik
Firestarter (1)
- redFF


Not Voting (3)
- Firestarter, FakeGod, kdowns

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch


EXTENDING TO MONDAY, MAY 14, 2012 3 pm CST
Deadline:
Thursday, May 11, 2012 3pm CST



Replacing:

Firestarter
Pine

Prods:

None

V/LAs:

Mastin May 9

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:08 am
by Psyche
The Mini-Librarian wrote:I see Nero's case on me. Will respond to it tomorrow game day (god willing) as it will just clog up the thread today.

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Psyche wrote:My read on Pine is quite...conjectural.


Can you clarify this please?


Noun:
An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:48 am
by Nero Cain
The Mini-Librarian wrote:I see Nero's case on me. Will respond to it tomorrow game day (god willing) as it will just clog up the thread today.

So you want to have a whole night phase before you respond to my case when A) I could die during the night and (most likely) the heat on your slot would die as well and B) assuming that you are scum then you'll get help from your buddies in crafting a defense.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:45 am
by StrangerCoug
DeasVail wrote:
SC:
If you thought TML was implying a cop innocent on LLD, why did you bring it up?

You cannot, by definition, imply something stated outright. By stating you "have a cop inno" on a player, you claim cop with an innocent result. That's about as plain as it gets.

The Mini-Librarian wrote:
@SC:
Let's see. That post had an emoticon, the next words after that were "
seriously though
" and I finished out the post by giving reasons completely seperate from me being a "cop" why I thought LLD was town.

Yep, totally a serious claim. :roll:

That my sense of humor is shot is conceded, but joking around claiming you are a certain role in a Mafia game is like joking around claiming you have a bomb at an airport. You cannot do either without serious repercussions. I stand by my vote, no matter how unpopular.

Psyche wrote:DV's is the scummiest hop so far. Not that he hopped, but how he did it.
It reminds me so much of my bandwagoning on D1 mislynches. A very sparse — the minimum for the ambitious scum, which makes me think gunny is town — justification for the wagon to show that it makes you uneasy and to avoid commitment...

Eh.

That's a good point to bring up, especially when I interpreted his vote as sheeping me despite him getting a chance to comment about the claim first.

Nero Cain wrote:His "LLD is town since unflipped Nero is attacking her" is just pathetic.

Quoted for truth.

The Mini-Librarian wrote:I see Nero's case on me. Will respond to it tomorrow game day (god willing) as it will just clog up the thread today.

Why should we let you live that long?

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:46 am
by StrangerCoug
EBWOP: Scatch the response to Psyche; I misinterpreted DeasVail as Nero Cain.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:51 pm
by Psyche
Oh. QQ

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:56 pm
by Nero Cain
????????????????

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:57 pm
by Junpei
Ugh, Pine replacing out? I still prefer to lynch Mastin, I don't know what to do to convince people though.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:09 pm
by Psyche
unvote; vote pine

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:17 pm
by drmyshotgun
Yeah, we should just lynch Pine and save the mod the trouble of getting a replacement.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:06 pm
by The Mini-Librarian
@Nero: I will respond to the case first thing tomorrow, regardless if you're alive or not. I promise this to everyone in the game. I can't really dissuade you about that second point though...

Oh fuck it. Here we go.

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First off, define scumhunting for me.
And then show me how in the world lynching my scumread isn't scumhunting.
Cause that's what I did day 1. I gave my opinions about the other players when I felt like it was appropriate. But seriously, you can't say I'm not scumhunting when I went after rack like that.

How is my supposed lack of scumhunting different from anyone else in this game? LLD? Benmage? Pine?

Am I right in saying that you want me dead for a) a "lack of scumhunting" and b) I put a vote on you that you think is bad?

I'm not going to go super in depth with my reads this game because this thread is already fucking huge, I have way too many null reads for my liking and frankly there hasn't been the need to do so.

As for the shottyizsik read: His first post struck me as townish. That's why I called him town. That changed over time for reasons I mentioned earlier.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:08 pm
by Junpei
Librarian... he means that you aren't actively scumhunting broadly. I don't know if it's true or not, but I believe Nero means that you aren't investigating everyone actively.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:12 pm
by The Mini-Librarian
HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM?

I'm going to focus on two or three people a day, even more so in a large game like this.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:27 pm
by Benmage
drmyshotgun wrote:Yeah, we should just lynch Pine and save the mod the trouble of getting a replacement.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:29 pm
by Junpei
The Mini-Librarian wrote:HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM?

I'm going to focus on two or three people a day, even more so in a large game like this.

If you focus on two or three people you're going to find people are scum. You have to investigate everyone in order to get good reads so that you have a feel for how everyone is playing. You can find reason to call everyone scum, so you need to investigate everyone.

It is scummy because town should generally understand this and want to make sure that they aren't just focusing on town players: They want to find scum and so they look at every suspect, not ruling anyone out.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:53 pm
by Nero Cain
@Mini-you didn't really call anyone BUT rack scum yesterday.

The closest thing is saying that Mac and Max bothers you. That scooby hasn't "improved his stature in my eyes"

And day 2 you didn't even call anyone scum, you just voted them.

flail a bit. Hunting a few specific people looks like scum trying to play it safe.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:46 pm
by FakeGod
:eek: what the

That Pine wagon wasn't there before.... I will go read.

Also, it seemed that mastin wagon seems meta-based.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:11 pm
by kdowns
VOTE: Pine

Yep Pretty confident in this just from the ISO.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:15 pm
by DeasVail
I haven't read up, but we need a claim from Pine before lynching him, which is a problem if PV can't get a replacement before deadline.

If I was to go for anyone else, it would probably be Kdowns, but I'll need to put some thought in before deciding on anyone else to go for.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:18 pm
by Code_X
kdowns replaced Macros right? Maybe we should see if Mastin's theory is correct.

Unvote
Vote: KDowns

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:11 pm
by StrangerCoug
Code_X wrote:kdowns replaced Macros right? Maybe we should see if Mastin's theory is correct.

Unvote
Vote: KDowns

I'm sorry. It's four in the morning and my brain isn't awake yet. What theory?

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:17 pm
by Code_X

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:30 am
by Kublai Khan
kdowns wrote:VOTE: Pine

Yep Pretty confident in this just from the ISO.

You just replaced into another game I'm in. Could we get some full reads from you in this game?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:37 am
by DeasVail
Unvote: Pine


Vote: Kdowns

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:07 am
by Kublai Khan
I am 100% for a deadline lynch of Pine, scooby, FakeGod, Firestarter, or kdowns. In that order of scummyness, though the last 3 are random. The deadwood in this game is ridiculous.
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I think StrangerCoug is pushing the joke-claiming angle too strongly. Next time read the whole post and not just the "I claim cop" part.

@The Mini-Librarian: Don't make stupid jokes.
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Junpei wrote:Ugh, Pine replacing out? I still prefer to lynch Mastin, I don't know what to do to convince people though.

I asked you to post your case a while back. You never did. So quityerbitching.