We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[ActionDan]

Before the mod clarified that each "faction" kill would have different flavor (and a vig kill would be separate flavor if applicable), I wouldn't have been sure. Now I'm certain I can answer "one" to this question. {Would have answered sooner but I lecture on Tues/Thurs this semester}

Well this is awkward. I'm immune to "2" of those. Specifically, I'm either immune to both mafia factions, or all SK factions.

[LucianRoy]

Cool.

[ActionDan]

Before we all run off with Jackel votes into the sunset. there's now some issues that are on the table. Which I'll try to mull over the particular implications of what's going on.

Regardless of Drixx's answer, I was going to question BBmolla's claim to be a miller to one specific faction mafia. Because, that's just not how it works (apparently that works for Drixx). I wanted to know if Marquis's possible results could account for BBm's version of his miller claim. Like, for instance, if Marquis were told exactly what faction his target would be, instead of the general sense of "guilty/not guilty" which would cast doubt on BBm's claim. Mine already does, but I'm BP and it's possible cops / BPs won't quite mix there. But then, if originally I was a BP in a 13p mini, and the mods adapted it as I have explained, then why not do the same for cops?

So now I'm not sure what to think.

[ActionDan]

So I now have to ask Drixx, when I asked the question "would you be suspicious of me if I asked of you 'are you immune to Mafia#1' or 'are you immune to SK#1'" that seemed to made you be ok with me. Do either of those clauses feature in your immunity criteria, and if not, how are they changed (roughly) to still fit your claim that you are immune to "one" faction?

[ActionDan]

I'd also now like Marquis to answer how his results work. I see no point to holding back

[Cuttlefish]

Vote Count 1.11

Jackel98 (7)

- Oranje Crush, Magua, Cerberus v666, copper223, LucianRoy, Marquis, vonflare

vonflare (3)

- ActionDan, BRantz, Jackel98

Drixx (3)

- Three-Pronged Trouser God, Om of the Nom, Toon Fighter

ActionDan (2)

- ChriVi, PeregrineV

Toon Fighter (1)

- BBmolla

VysePresident (1)

- deathfisaro

BRantz (1)

- Narninian

deathfisaro (1)

- Pirate Ika

LucianRoy (1)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth

Marquis (1)

- Boonskiies

Not Voting (4)

: VysePresident, Titus, Ozgin, Drixx, Lihin

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

[ActionDan]

UNVOTE:

[Lihin]

Just gotten to death's "reaction test". I've looked and it reeks of scum that death doesn't really seem to know what or who he was actually looking for in his reaction test. You're supposed to at least have an idea of what sort of reaction you're looking for when you reaction test? Were just you hoping to draw up whatever most suited your needs on the spot?
Don't like Drixx's defenses which seem to be reactionary counterattacks to whoever is attacking him despite any of their prior actions (attacking a mason?), and his claim is somewhat weak. I think there are better options right now though.
TPTG and others voting Drixx: how do you feel about a death/jackel lynch over Drixx?

[ActionDan]

I haven't been actually reading people's play in much depth btw. all the other stuff is a lot more fascinating

[ActionDan]

Just gotten to death's "reaction test". I've looked and it reeks of scum that death doesn't really seem to know what or who he was actually looking for in his reaction test. You're supposed to at least have an idea of what sort of reaction you're looking for when you reaction test? Were just you hoping to draw up whatever most suited your needs on the spot?
Don't like Drixx's defenses which seem to be reactionary counterattacks to whoever is attacking him despite any of their prior actions (attacking a mason?), and his claim is somewhat weak. I think there are better options right now though.
TPTG and others voting Drixx: how do you feel about a death/jackel lynch over Drixx?

Although this roughly looks like a scum post. but hey I'm rusty at these things.

[Cerberus v666]

Hmm. Also, do we want to use BBMolla's night skip thing today? If so...we should pick up all those votes lying around and ensure it goes off before a lynch does.

[ActionDan]

I might be in favor of lynching his face outright tbh.

But I suppose it can't hurt

VOTE: BBmolla

[Drixx]

I have a role name and a power explained as immunity from kills made by "Faction X". I don't know if that faction is a mafia group or a single Vig or an SK or anything like that. I assumed it was a mafia faction until your claim AD.

@Lihin - Really? If someone makes a case on me that has logical issues, features cherrypicking and/or wholesale manipulation to make the case, and/or outright ignores contrary facts to the narrative being presented, I should just defend myself and not attack them for making a scummy case?

I re-iterate my main assertion about case building: Townies don't need to be manipulative, cherry pick, or ignore contrary evidence. Scum are trying to sell a story. Town are trying to objectively find scum. If you have to cheat on your case, you aren't being objective.

[copper223]

I'd use BBmolla's claimed ability today.

[Jackel98]

What if I wasn't a normal tracker? What would that change?

[vonflare]

ok what is jackel talking about

is he a tracker, hacker, or cop?

[ActionDan]

So like my rolename is town bulletproof. straight up. I guess yours is not? It's also accompanied by an ability name that details my immunity status. I thought you would have either immunity to mafia, or SKs, (well obviously the one I didn't have). But this "faction X". Is that "X" a stand-in for a something particular that is known to you... or literally faction 'X' where the mod tells you that 'X' could be anything?

[copper223]

It would make it more likely your claim would fit with the general flavour I have seen from the claims so far and depending on what it does it might change the issue of balance I have at the moment, it would still not explain your very tentative play with a confirmable PR, why?

[Marquis]

no id rather not waste molla today not until after night flips and info

[deathfisaro]

Just gotten to death's "reaction test". I've looked and it reeks of scum that death doesn't really seem to know what or who he was actually looking for in his reaction test. You're supposed to at least have an idea of what sort of reaction you're looking for when you reaction test? Were just you hoping to draw up whatever most suited your needs on the spot?
Don't like Drixx's defenses which seem to be reactionary counterattacks to whoever is attacking him despite any of their prior actions (attacking a mason?), and his claim is somewhat weak. I think there are better options right now though.
TPTG and others voting Drixx: how do you feel about a death/jackel lynch over Drixx?

Congratulations you only have just about 800 more posts to go. You found the perfect scapegoat, let's all tunnel on it all day every day. And fast forward 800 posts to disregard everything that happened in between because scapegoats like me are not abundant. Scumreading Lihin for the same reason as Pirate Ika.

And I was strongly for shooting Jackel, I'm also for lynching Jackel.
VOTE: Jackel98

pedit:

What if I wasn't a normal tracker? What would that change?

Oh, you asked me to claim?

I'm a town tracker.

No specials. Just town tracker.

You claimed plain tracker. You double confirmed "just town tracker." And now you're wanting to crumb something else? Laughable. But by all means, go ahead, let's milk everything out of you before you die.

[vonflare]

ok what is jackel talking about

is he a tracker, hacker, or cop?

oh wait nvm wrong game

[Jackel98]

It was a question. I've seen a bunch of, "Don't believe it because it's unspecial."

[copper223]

@Jackel
So tell me why you made those statements about not wanting to be mislynched?

@deathfisaro
thanks a bunch for blowing any chance he would switch and make it easy if he is scum.

[ActionDan]

It would make it more likely your claim would fit with the general flavour I have seen from the claims so far and depending on what it does it might change the issue of balance I have at the moment, it would still not explain your very tentative play with a confirmable PR, why?

Atm, my guess is one of these mods made more or less normal roles, and one of them made crazy shit. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, DRAMONIC.

My role name is town BP. that's normal sounding, as is town tracker. Masons are normal. / flip side. Lucian is not normal, you are not normal, Bbmolla is not normal, Drixx I don't think is normal anymore! those neighbors aren't normal, neighbor day cop isn't normal.

[Jackel98]

Because lynching me would be a mislynch, hurting town, and I'd like to live to D2.