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↑ T S O wrote:

↑ Klingoncelt wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:What, I never claimed multiball. I meant two groups of different alignment. I didn't even know that multiball was a possibility this game until I was accused on crumbing it.

"Two groups of different alignment..."

Would it not have been easier and more sensible to say "I meant Town and Mafia?"

This is an awful last-ditch push, and it's not one town-Klingon would make. You can die.

It's not awful, it's not last-ditch, and Klingon Town.



Christ, this is so frustrating.

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Wow, that was quite well thought out. I'll drop Elyse for now, I don't have the energy at this moment in time to continue pushing that lynch. And spifflop practically completely clears Klingon. So,
VOTE: spifflop

I wish you were scum, Exxy, bless your heart.

↑ Alchemist21 wrote:I don't get the Aunt Jemima read there. Doesn't her constant reads mean she is sorting what's going on? She seems to have a good understanding of the gamestate to me.

VOTE: Alchemist21.

UNVOTE:

Time to re-read and re-sort.

↑ itlepip wrote:Overall "seems very focussed on giving reads rather than actually trying to sort out what is going on. null-scum" perfectly describes your play so far. You have waaay to many scumreads in this list to the point of fencesitting. Spifflop wagon is horrible and you need to get off of it, and you are putting too much trust in that one dapper post.

I really like this post from pippy.

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ Elyse wrote:I haven't read anything but I see spifflop votes and when I come back tonight those shitty votes better get off Spiff and on Kling. Spiff is the towniest town that ever towned.

Too good to pass up.

Vote: Spifflop

Why would you vote for spifflop instead of Elyse here?

While I understand Grinny's thought process (it is an indicator he is slightly more likely to be sweet, unafraid to have fun), I had this same thought as well, meaning I like this post too.

↑ grapes wrote:Lots of resistance too and I haven't seen one person muster a reason why they're so town.

Because they're my mason partner, can't you read?

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Varsoon wrote:VOTE: Klingoncelt
Your overconfidence is your weakness.

BAD vote

To the contrary: Spiffyloppy wagon is rather obviously a Celty counterwagon, and I do not think it is driven by sweet players.

VOTE: Klingoncelt.

I don't want to help dismantle the wagon, least of all when a player who is obviously town is the counterwagon.

↑ Garmr wrote:Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy.

This post makes Gammy sweet.

↑ Spifflop wrote:Scum: Klingon, randomidget, Alchemist, grapes
I can't tell if Jaqen is scum with Klingon throwing her a bone or is just stubborn town.

I can see all of these.
My grappy townread has been revoked, and I still see Dappy as sour, since if he's town, bless his heart, he still wouldn't have learned his lesson.
Alchy is a minor sour-read, and while Celty's not anymore a rock-solid scumread, she's the best I have.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:Klingon is a CW to both Shiro and EE

Incorrect: Exxy was a counter-wagon to Celty.

↑ Shiro wrote:You guys should all come back to voting grapes. He is the best wagon that had surfaced so far.
@Dapper if it wasn't for how horrible all the other votes on spiff are I would be able to consider your reasons but take a look at the wagon and tell me how that is a town motivated wagon.

↑ Shiro wrote:Unless anyone is up for an alchemist wagon. That may actually be even better

Shiro is sweet.

↑ T S O wrote:I played against - and caught, harassed, and secured a lynch - on Elyse-scum in YCBA III. Either she has dramatically stepped up her scumgame, or she's town. There are a few telltale signs - her wondering where I am, for instance, is one of them. Elyse-town is a lot more likely to have that presence of mind.

I like this and your Alchy point a lot.

Hi. Looks like my other head never got around to posting

Can we lynch Klingon now?

↑ Aunt Jemina wrote:

↑ Spifflop wrote:Scum: Klingon, randomidget, Alchemist, grapes
I can't tell if Jaqen is scum with Klingon throwing her a bone or is just stubborn town.

I can see all of these.
My grappy townread has been revoked, and I still see Dappy as sour, since if he's town, bless his heart, he still wouldn't have learned his lesson.
Alchy is a minor sour-read, and while Celty's not anymore a rock-solid scumread, she's the best I have.

Says one who is protecting scum as town to bitter defeat...

A man is having no reason for believing this one's claim.

@AJ, I thought I was fake claiming masons with you...or was I itep? Bah a storm makes people forget things.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Aunt Jemina wrote:

↑ Spifflop wrote:Scum: Klingon, randomidget, Alchemist, grapes
I can't tell if Jaqen is scum with Klingon throwing her a bone or is just stubborn town.

I can see all of these.
My grappy townread has been revoked, and I still see Dappy as sour, since if he's town, bless his heart, he still wouldn't have learned his lesson.
Alchy is a minor sour-read, and while Celty's not anymore a rock-solid scumread, she's the best I have.

Says one who is protecting scum as town to bitter defeat...

A man is having no reason for believing this one's claim.

And by protecting a man is saying this one is lying through her teeth, softing and crumbing one scum's role because it is serving her personal purpose of staying alive while aimultaneously loudly protecting another scum with this one's "meta knowledge"

I don't even know who you're referencing anymore Dapper.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:Says one who is protecting scum as town to bitter defeat...

Oh, one of us is protecting scum and pushing town alright, but it sure isn't this old lady.

Not this one AJ. A man is referencing a game past as he's sure you are aware

↑ Aunt Jemina wrote:

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Wow, that was quite well thought out. I'll drop Elyse for now, I don't have the energy at this moment in time to continue pushing that lynch. And spifflop practically completely clears Klingon. So,
VOTE: spifflop

I wish you were scum, Exxy, bless your heart.

↑ Alchemist21 wrote:I don't get the Aunt Jemima read there. Doesn't her constant reads mean she is sorting what's going on? She seems to have a good understanding of the gamestate to me.

VOTE: Alchemist21.

Do you believe exxy could be scum I presented most of day 1 pushing this. I'd like your opion on my points.

Unexpected V/LA for today because of medical reasons. Sorry!

↑ Garmr wrote:
Do you believe exxy could be scum I presented most of day 1 pushing this. I'd like your opion on my points.

This made me chuckle, because I thought of a wolf all dressed up in a suit and dite getting off his bike and asking people of they could talk to him about their friend extrapolated eagle.

Pedit: ouch. That's exciting :/

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Are you intentionally misrepresenting me, TSO? Or are you just missing really vital parts of the thread?

I think your arrogance clouds your reads, if you are town.

Are you worth my time to respond to? You don't seem to be capable of reading the parts where I have already responded to the questions you pretend to innocently ask in your attempts at framing me as scum.

Let's play a game. I'll summarise my questions about you from that wall, and then you can quote from your ISO, where you've answered these questions in the past. That will really show me up to be the arrogant, non-reading all-around bad guy that I am.

Or, as is more likely, you'll just reply with some snarky rubbish, because you won't have any answers, and producing snarky rubbish is your way of hiding that.

↑ Alchemist21 wrote:

@TSO;

I was asking for something specific from you about Klingon rather than the generality of not liking her ISO. As for where I've been, this game is full of noise that I either don't understsnd or don't care about. I'd rather deal with things I can manage today and wait for the game to thin out before getting wrapped up in huge conversations. I've made a few points in this game, and I still stand by what I said about Passionate Storm and itle.

If you want something succinct - Klingon's most recent pushes have been on weak players, lurkers, people who she knows are quite vulnerable. Pip, inte, that sort of thing. The pushes also suck ass, for what it's worth. This sort of horrible opportunism when close to death is not what Klingon-town would be doing.

-Can you quote, or point out, or make some sort of attempt at showing where I have been "jumping all over the place?" I think this is the fourth time I've asked, and you continue to disappoint.
-The way you're grouping scumteams is idiotic. This isn't me being arrogant or something, it's the truth. But we can simply wait until postgame for it to be shown up, so I digress.
-Do you actually believe Klingon is scum? Or is it some ill-founded attempt to further your scumread on PS? If it's the latter, please get the fuck off the wagon now.
-Why are you voting Klingon? I want specific reasons.
-Do you think that the way you continually attempt to pressure flip conversations is indicative of your alignment?
-In post #1514, you say that I'm unvoting Klingon because of her alignment, but it's not clear why. Can you expand on this scenario in detail? It seems like the best reason to scumread me you have, yet you're curiously reticent about it.
-If my arrogance is blinding me, then why are you currently sheeping my reads and voting Klingon?
-Is it difficult to reconcile your scumread of PS with your apparent scumread on Klingon?

I am making a prediction, right now, that EE's responses, in order, will be something about how responding is a waste of time, how much I suck, how mean I am, and then some hurried response to less than half of the points that has a lot of waffle and no quotes.

Prove me wrong, EE.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:TSO. A man is enjoying playing with you or is avoiding games you are in when possible. Aan is having many games with you. Is a man going through your games to point out specific examples of what aan is noticing something that will help this game or is it something better saved for post game? A man is thinking he is having what is needed to improve the softest part of your game as you are in tightening his own weaknesses and so is glad in having this convo whenever so long as a couple of pages or so of mechanics banter that has nothing to do with this game isn't distracting to everyone else.

This discussion in general may be best saved for postgame, but I'd definitely be interested in having it.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:You are also asking Fresh where we are disagreeing. He is in the Klingon is scum camp. While a man isn't agreeing he is supporting the vote if Fresh is casting it. Other than that, a man is believing we're seeing pretty eye to eye.

Ask Fresh how he can reconcile his Klingon scumread with his Spifflop scumread? Does he think it's multiball?

Final post as a reminder to myself to read both Jaqen's case and Shiro's case.