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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:26 am
by Infinity 324
We lynch jarjar, no matter what he flips I'll shoot nadr. They're probably both scum and if one is town, the other is scum for sure. Then if one is town take a hard look at mathblade.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:27 am
by Manuel87
Okay i get the logic its actually a good answer but why do you think JarJar is scum?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:35 am
by Infinity 324
I don't think scum would kill transcend if jarjar was town, it's as simple as that. My reads can be wrong, but facts can't. I'm pretty sure there were people more townread than transcend, and WIFOM kills are almost never done n1, especially since transcend didn't have a single main suspect. Only reason I want to lynch jarjar most is because he looks less town to me than math and nadr. Math also has the crumb thing going on
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:02 am
by Manuel87
Why wouldnt scum target me N1?
I was widely townread day 1 and were pushing on Gamma. A good reason to push on Gamma if i die N1.
I was actually sure that i would be the target for the nightkill no matter what Gammas alignment is.
If you are town then Maths claim is rather unlikely as that would mean 5 PRs.
So if we push a lynch on Math either they are scum and get lynched or someone steps up and confirmes their claim which would again question your claim.
The question is do we want to out a possible PR to confirme Math or not?
Also what if Jordan is town and scum dont shoot tonight?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:07 am
by Infinity 324
I don't think scum would target you since gamma is town and I think they'd predict that your tunnel would interfere with your play. Quite a few people townread you, but you just replaced in so you were still potentially a realistic mislynch.
I don't think math should out yet, but that is certainly something we'll have to work out later.
As for the last scenario, that would suck, but I'm ok with being lynched them if that's the case. At least a prime suspect will die overnight instead of who scum want.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:56 am
by Manuel87
If we lynch town!JarJar today and you shot town!Jordan we lose if you are town you shouldnt be okay with that.
i see 3 options:
1) we lynch you
2) we pressure Math (you already said your against that)
3) we vote no lynch today and you shoot Jordan or JarJar. we would need to discuss that. my vote would be on Jordan btw. (actually seeing how it plays out you should decide between the two without telling anyone)
3) might seem stupid but since we blocked one NK it would work out. We are at 3 scum 7 town right now.
No lynch mean either:
3 v 6
3 v 5
2 v 7
2 v 6
3 v 6 means you lied or scum didnt kill N3 and we lynch you. If you are scum we didnt lose a misslynch as we still have 1 misslynch left. If you are town we would lose our mislynch today anyway.
3 v 5 Gamma and your target die. You are confirmed town. We dont lose a misslynch as we would have lynched you today but we win confirmed town.
2 v 7 isnt likely as it would mean scum doenst kill when their buddy is your target and you are confirmed anyway. (thats why its better you decide without telling anyone)
2 v 6 Gamma dies and you are confirmed town. We dont lose a mislynch and 1 scum dies.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:04 am
by Infinity 324
Jarjar and nadr are not both town
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:07 am
by Gamma Emerald
I agree, however I think Xnadr is scum, not JarJar.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:12 am
by Manuel87
that would make option 3 still safer without a disadvantage fur us.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:16 am
by MathBlade
Lol Manuel is trying to get Infinity out of the lynch remember this.
This setup was reviewed for balance and normalcy in the first post.
This is inspector scout's first modded game.
There is no way JK/BP/Watcher+Role of secret+Absorber exist in this setup.
We lynch infinity and stop letting Manuel try to buy an extra day.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:17 am
by Manuel87
In post 1684, MathBlade wrote:Lol Manuel is trying to get Infinity out of the lynch remember this.
This setup was reviewed for balance and normalcy in the first post.
This is inspector scout's first modded game.
There is no way JK/BP/Watcher+Role of secret+Absorber exist in this setup.
We lynch infinity and stop letting Manuel try to buy an extra day.
So smartypants what do we lose by voting no lynch today?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:26 am
by Gamma Emerald
Infinity/manuel/Xnadr team
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:27 am
by MathBlade
Assume Gamma is town and infinity scum for a moment:
If Infinity is a scum Absorber (because there is no way all that power is town)
Then we go to 5 town 3 scum. This means it is you Infinity + one other probably JarJar/Jordan and done. We would have to lynch correctly every day. It would have to be lynch infinity (as we should do today) 2 scum 4 town then proper play is no lynch. Then 2v3 and must lynch correctly. Every single lynch becomes must lynch correctly or lose.
We lose a lynch of flexibility if Infinity is scum Absorber.
If Infinity is a liar scum
Then it becomes 3 scum v 6 town lynch Infinity. 2 scum v 5 town. We don't have to be exactly right on the scum team.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:31 am
by MathBlade
Infinity is not confirmed town by killing in that he would be a confirmed role.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:32 am
by Manuel87
If he is scum absorber why should he get a vig-shot from targeting scums nightkill?
Your reasoning is retarded.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:33 am
by Infinity 324
Why would we NL instead of just lynching scum!jar
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:34 am
by MathBlade
If he would be an Absorber why would he get a vig kill at all. Your reasoning equally ridiculous. It is already not normal at that point.
I already said I don't believe him.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:35 am
by MathBlade
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:36 am
by Gamma Emerald
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:39 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1689, Manuel87 wrote:If he is scum absorber why should he get a vig-shot from targeting scums nightkill?
Your reasoning is retarded.
Agree.
But Infinity is still scum for @ least the following reasons:
- Absorber cannot absorb the mafias kill therefore he is lying
- Gamma didnt see anyone else target therefore he is lying
Thinking that Scout modified the role is stupid.
Thinking that Gamma didnt see another target cause mafia has some kind of mystery role is stupid.
Thinking that BOTH of those things are true though...Stupid doesn't even begin to cover it.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:40 am
by Infinity 324
Ninja is by no means a "Mystery role"
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:41 am
by JarJarDrinks
OK
Change to
"Thinking that Gamma didnt see another target cause mafia has a ninja is stupid."
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:42 am
by MathBlade
I have to go to work but we should lynch Infinity. Give him a nice present of rope.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:12 am
by Dunnstral
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:13 am
by Gamma Emerald
You should vote Infinity.