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consider the possibility im town and hes scum
he cant swap me because me AND cakez flipping town is bad for him

Yeah but he's gonna be living scum, not dead scum. <_<

hey im not dead yet
If both Riku/Pine do flip town for some god forsaken reason don't be afraid to look at Wisdom. Muffin v Wisdom may very well be TvS.

In post 1676, dramonic wrote:Yeah but he's gonna be living scum, not dead scum. <_<

tbh, if it were me 2 years ago, i'd have swapped wisdom without a second thought probably. ever since i started playing again, i feel like i'm playing a lot safer than i ever did before because i'm afraid of being wrong. it sucks, but it is what it is - i think i need to get my feet wet again

btw, you don't seriously believe i'm scum with wisdom, do you?

I'm not entirely convinced.
You might just be playing cowardly.

if wisdom is scum, i'm sorry

Group 3 has been lynched on day one. It contained:

dramonic, .
Pine, .
riku, .
SirCakez, .



It is now Night One. Deadline will be 11:00 AM PST on Sunday, in (expired on 2018-05-20 14:00:00).

DeasVail has been killed on Night One. He was a .

Day two dawns!

VOTE COUNT 2.1

1	2	3
northsidegal	Eddie Cane	BuJaber
Wisdom	Kokichi Oma	havingfitz
	zMuffinMan	REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

Group 1

(0):

Group 2

(0):

Group 3

(0):
Not voting: 8 (BuJaber, Eddie Cane, havingfitz, Kokichi Oma, northsidegal, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE, Wisdom, zMuffinMan)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-28 15:00:00).

This is lylo I believe. No one vote. I think wisdom is town so buj is likely the scum out of day 1 group 2. If anyone has anything relevant to claim, now is likely the time

Also why kill DV? Did he soft?

sorry guys i did fuck up after all.
fwiw I think kokichi is more likely scum than bu

Also still think there should be scum in the group prs, so with cakez town muffin and/or eddie are scum

consider my vote on group 2

Why am I more likely scum? Why would I do that claim when not being pressured as scum

Because you wanted g2 lynched
Gets 4 town lynched and saves your buddies

unless the team is exactly {eddie, kokichi, muffin} (which i doubt), i think i'm leaning towards group 3 today.

disagreeing with wisdom here - i haven't reread to fully solidify this yet, but i still townread kokichi and looking back i think people were too quick to townread bujaber.

i still think bu is different than his scumself

my initial thought going into night was wisdom-REAL MAN-someone from G1 (fitz was my first guess)

protector flip is interesting since it might mean a 6th manipulation role exists (self-mirror). at least if symmetry was a key theme for those roles (i think it might be)

i want eddie to full-claim his role as well as verifying whether he can self-target (i doubt it but if he can that blows my symmetry theory away)

anyway, heading to work so ill probably do some reading when i get home tonight

In post 1692, Wisdom wrote:i still think bu is different than his scumself

What's his scum self? I townread him when he was scum in the clown game, so cant say I would know the difference

he feels fake as scum
I knew he was scum in clown after i read a few posts

I'm not scum and I still trust wisdom to be town here, so I'm guessing 1/1/1 split again. Or 1/2/0.

My vote is on group 2.

They used up their kill so we will never lose if we hit at least 1 scum every day because they can't put less than 1 in each group.

So basically if we lynch group 2 we're down 3. Assuming it's 1:2 we'll have 3 townies and 2 scum left.

They have two ways to win tomorrow which is they put 2 town together without scum or 1 scum with 1 town.

So 2/2/1 is their best bet. If they do 3/1/1 we lynch the scummiest solo group.
They can try to put 2town with 1 scum but then you have 2 groups with only 1 person in them you'd know who's scum.

Besides it's still between wisdom and koki. One of them at least is scum. The fact that they didn't put them together means we will have a confirmed scum tomorrow if koki isn't the scum.

Even if you guys don't believe that I'm town it'll still be between me and wisdom tomorrow so you'll be able to know how to avoid losing.

Basically the fact that you can't have a group with 0 is why this game is balanced and scum can't hurt town too much as long as we know there is guaranteed scum within 2 or 3 players. Which is why I had so many issues with dramon and muffin's logic. They were way too scared of lylo. This game lylo is less dangerous than normal mafia bekieve it or not because there is so much info to gain from the partitioning.


VOTE: Group 2

Koki it's actually a brilliant claim by you. At first I townread the hell out of it because I couldn't explain why you'd risk exposing yourself but you knew you were either killing 4 town or we will vote another group which means you remain a mystery.

Also as far as it sucks that we argued so much I think muffin is town if koki is scum. Why would koki claim so early if he knew that a switching PR exists which makes it likely that town had one if scum had one. So koki would have known about muffin's switch.

Muffin I don't tell people how to play the game but when you're town consider keeping the sarcasm limited. You came off as scum that is gloating knowing you are being suspected but can't be killed.

who else do you think is scum buj?

also,

In post 1696, BuJaber wrote:They used up their kill so we will never lose if we hit at least 1 scum every day because they can't put less than 1 in each group.

either you're very confused about the setup or i am

oh wait you mean they cant put less than 1 person in each group. right nm

the problem with your logic, of course, is that if wisdom happens to be town and eddie happens to be town, then town loses today

so yeah, theoretically if one scum gets lynched everyday then town can't lose

otoh that actually needs to happen...