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Also, Vork won't claim without intent. (Wich, I find rather scummy) If you are scumreading him why not claim intent to speed up the game?

@Dann

Oh. Didn't think to. If Dann was talking about paranoia about your slot I would've.

One of his first posts was basically "I town read everyone but BEF and Nero"

I haven't read from a computer since he subbed in, so I guess I missed the Nero part considering all of his pushing has been Fish.

TBF, he didn't outright call me scum but he explained why everyone else was town except BEF and then had me as this kinda leftover.

though he's reiterated several times he doesn't have a strong read on me and is now calling the non-BEF scum in the lurkers.

You aren't a lurker though.

I know, he's saying that KMD or Varsoon are the other scum.

I did not outright call you scum because I don't think you're scum. I had direct reasons to believe everyone else on the Vork wagon was town, and I vaguely town read you, while BEF screamed scum. At no point did I scum read you or express any suspicion towards you, I just don't have anything I can say about you yet.

Also, you're right. I missed that he wouldn't claim without intent.

Why were you determined not to claim without an intent to hammer despite multiple people asking you to? If you're not a PR what's the point of that?

UNVOTE:
need2think

have u ever been so sure of something but then u feel uneasy in ur stomach and dont know what to do

asking for a friend

Hi Oka!

In post 1686, DrDolittle wrote:UNVOTE:
need2think

This makes me feel more confident in my vork/ddl team hypothesis.

In post 1510, DrDolittle wrote:
Besides, even if Vork lives today, are we letting him go anywhere lylo? Voting anywhere else today is silly.

Was the VT claim that moving to you? Do you feel comfortable now with vork possibly getting to LyLo?

Oka and DDL why are you both suddenly unsure? What changes with a VT claim

No I just finished a game where a bunch of scum were lurkers and one dude I was pretty sure was town was scum

Woah.

What's the point of posting 1693

In post 1692, OkaPoka wrote:No I just finished a game where a bunch of scum were lurkers and one dude I was pretty sure was town was scum

Unsurprising.

In post 1684, Vorkuta wrote:

I claim Vanilla Townie

I CC

Aight, I can't sleep so here are my reads on everyone who is not named Vork, Oka, BEF, mbaki or Creature.

Nero Cain strikes me at first as an incredibly self-focused and self-involved player. This is a trait I usually associate with scum. In my mind town should care a lot less what other people think about them than scum. However, it didn't take long looking at Nero Cain's town meta to realize that's just how he plays, so it isn't AI at worst and is consistent with his town meta at best. I'm not going to quote specific examples here, you can't go two posts in his ISO without him asking what someone thinks of him or why someone is voting him.

In post 341, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 339, mbaki wrote:

In post 332, Suka wrote:mbaki, what's your current read on Nero?

Very slight toward scum I guess. No strong opinion to give.

Do you have any strong opinions this game and what are they?

Nero Cain does this quite a lot throughout the game (most recently directed at me), urging people to give opinions about the game or at least opinions at all. This is one of the reasons I had vague town vibes when I first skimmed. On closer look, the amount of times he pushes in this way reads very town to me. Engaging people in this way to create strong perspectives about the game is generally always gonna help town more than scum, and scum usually find it safer to question people in more vague and less helpful to town ways.

In post 578, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 566, OkaPoka wrote:How would you suggest we resolve Yyotta, Nero?

Why do we

HAVE

to solve it? A game with no investigation roles are rare.

I mean, I guess it could be scum but I'm not really expecting a scum flip.

I guess for me all the talk of policy lynch and a post like

In post 536, mbaki wrote:After a stalking of YYotta I have concluded they are likely WOTC worthy. This is very slightly more reminant of her town game. That said, I believe she is just a troll alt account of somebody.

has kinda scared me away from the wagon.

I was also agreeing with RB earlier that her lulzy vote on Suka felt kinda town,

I have to give town cred to anyone who put up more than a token resistance to the Yyota lynch. That slot was so perfect for scum.

In post 1106, Nero Cain wrote:TBF, town do get frustrated. Like yeah sure, throwing down a self-vote and aTeing as scum is a thing but its not like ONLY scum self-vote.

Also town points specifically for recognizing this. Very easy for scum to try and throw aside the fact that the self vote can have nuance to it.

Overall, I like the way the way Nero pushed people throughout Day 1, and his specific way of pressuring people to take strong stances is a definite town tell for me. Plus, his self-focus tendencies are consistent with a town meta so that's a bonus. I'm comfortable slotting Nero in with my strong mbaki and Creature town reads.

In post 1696, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 1684, Vorkuta wrote:

I claim Vanilla Townie

I CC

lmao

Gonna do other players cuz who needs sleep, but I'll break up the posts so it's easier to read.

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