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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 6:29 am

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Votecount 4.3


bob3141 (1): Adorable
Adorable (1): bob3141
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Not Voting: profii, LuckyLuciano, clidd, Morning Tweet

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The day will end in (expired on 2020-05-19 22:00:00).
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 10:00 am

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I'm back, reading soon.
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 10:03 am

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These intersections of Wake x Luciano and Adorable x Bob are not TvT in my perception.
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 10:04 am

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In post 1601, profii wrote:How long do we go round in the wifom circle of

Babysitter claim could be scum

If scum, babysitter remains alive
If babysitter claim lives, scum want us to lynch
Where are you ?
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 10:10 am

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Luciano seems to have given up on the game. I expected an analysis of him at this point.
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 10:40 am

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it's probable that either A.) bob is scum with lucky or B.) adorable is scum with profii.

what do you think of the possibility both scum is in the VTs, clidd? If so, i think that makes bob town
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 10:52 am

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I find it difficult, it is not normal that there are so many crosses. My current guess is alternative A, considering that Luciano is very apathetic to what I expected from Town!Luciano.
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Tue May 12, 2020 4:20 pm

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Luciano, you have 24 to towntell or I'll advocate a flash-lynch on you.
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 12:30 am

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I think lynching Lucky/Dave slot is the best idea currently.

Who else was off the Chemist wagon and on the two following mislynches?
"It's wise to be... cautious... with Wake."
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"What Wake lacks in charisma, he makes up for it in pure analytic power."
— Nosferatu*
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 6:55 am

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Too any wanting the dave /lucky slot.

Can you explain the missing town power if one of either dave, tweet or wake are scum.
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 6:59 am

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If it isn't the case that both Wake and I are town, why did mafia have a jailkeeper?
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 7:00 am

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A 1x one at that. In other words, there is a scenario where mafia can be expected to optimally time the use of their jail. What is that scenario, if not to jail one of us and kill the other?
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:58 am

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In post 1685, LuckyLuciano wrote:If it isn't the case that both Wake and I are town, why did mafia have a jailkeeper?
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:03 am

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In post 1680, Morning Tweet wrote:it's probable that either A.) bob is scum with lucky or B.) adorable is scum with profii.

what do you think of the possibility both scum is in the VTs, clidd? If so, i think that makes bob town
So it's either pr + vt or it's bob + profii. I find it interesting bob and profii are not interacting with each other and bob votes me instead of profii.
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:06 am

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In post 1686, LuckyLuciano wrote:A 1x one at that. In other words, there is a scenario where mafia can be expected to optimally time the use of their jail. What is that scenario, if not to jail one of us and kill the other?
Can anyone with mechanical knowledge give an opinion on this ?
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:23 am

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@Everyone, why is nobody suspecting Clidd of being mafia? I'm not asking because I think he's mafia, but because I haven't seen him popping up in recent PoEs.

@Clidd, mafia had a jailkeeper for a reason. It's not for the ascetic. It's not for the neighborizer. If I am town and Wake is not, then the only purpose of the jailkeeper is to prevent me from protecting someone. That doesn't make sense, because they can kill me to kill my protect target. If Wake is town and I am not, the only possible use of the jail is to jail Wake and kill his watch target. However, if they know Wake is watcher (they are using their 1x jail on him in this scenario after all), why not just kill him? Jailkeeper only makes sense if Wake and I are both town.
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:36 am

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In post 1690, LuckyLuciano wrote:@Everyone, why is nobody suspecting Clidd of being mafia? I'm not asking because I think he's mafia, but because I haven't seen him popping up in recent PoEs.

@Clidd, mafia had a jailkeeper for a reason. It's not for the ascetic. It's not for the neighborizer. If I am town and Wake is not, then the only purpose of the jailkeeper is to prevent me from protecting someone. That doesn't make sense, because they can kill me to kill my protect target. If Wake is town and I am not, the only possible use of the jail is to jail Wake and kill his watch target. However, if they know Wake is watcher (they are using their 1x jail on him in this scenario after all), why not just kill him? Jailkeeper only makes sense if Wake and I are both town.
Makes sense. But if this is true, why it wasn't mentioned at any point in the game ?
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:38 am

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Does the time at which it is mentioned have an effect on its truth value?
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:45 am

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In post 1682, clidd wrote:Luciano, you have 24 to towntell or I'll advocate a flash-lynch on you.
For the record, BoP is stupid and not a way to motivate me.
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 12:07 pm

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In post 1692, LuckyLuciano wrote:Does the time at which it is mentioned have an effect on its truth value?
It depends on the perspective that you managed to get at that observation. But as it is something public (Chemist's role), I assume that maybe we didn't pay attention to it.
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 12:09 pm

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In post 1693, LuckyLuciano wrote:
In post 1682, clidd wrote:Luciano, you have 24 to towntell or I'll advocate a flash-lynch on you.
For the record, BoP is stupid and not a way to motivate me.
I would say it's more like
"start playing like Town!Luciano''
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 12:11 pm

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In post 1694, clidd wrote:
In post 1692, LuckyLuciano wrote:Does the time at which it is mentioned have an effect on its truth value?
It depends on the perspective that you managed to get at that observation. But as it is something public (Chemist's role), I assume that maybe we didn't pay attention to it.
Are you saying that because I did setup spec in a different way than other players that I am mafia? Bob argued that both Wake and I must be town, simply from a different perspective (gap in town power).
In post 1695, clidd wrote:
In post 1693, LuckyLuciano wrote:
In post 1682, clidd wrote:Luciano, you have 24 to towntell or I'll advocate a flash-lynch on you.
For the record, BoP is stupid and not a way to motivate me.
I would say it's more like
"start playing like Town!Luciano''
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 12:15 pm

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Yes, depending on the information you have as scum, different observations can happen. But in your case it does not imply that you are mafia.
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 12:18 pm

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Okay, so are you going to take this new information and apply it to your reads?
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 12:20 pm

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Do you have reads besides that ? (who's scum/town)
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