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In post 1667, WhemeStar wrote:

In post 1648, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1636, WhemeStar wrote:

In post 1560, morph the cat wrote:Bell do you have an S_S read?

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Wheme

You've expressed townreads of Toog and Titus. You've voted (in order) Farkran, Anya, notsci, and whitefire. (plus Bingle, but that looked like a sheep vote)

Did you change votes because you stopped scumreading the previous vote? because the next vote was a stronger scumread? because another wagon looked like it was stronger? Some other reason?

You said something about wanting to townread some players but fearing you'd be wrong(?). Who are the players you're concerned look town but might not be?

I like hopping my votes around to different people when I play. I don't have many strong scumreads yet at all though. Hopefully my votes/people voting me help me find stronger reads. I didn't like Farkrans iso so I voted him. Anya's posts just seemed like coasting/ LHF scum but apparently that's how they always post/play. WhiteFire is actually a scumread of mine because I think this is is how scum firebringer plays even though Im not totally experienced with scum fire. Players im concerned about are you/TSQ/Lady currently.

What did you dislike about Farkran's iso?

I'm not sure what the "this" is in FB's play.

So us/TSQ/LLD are paranoia reads? Are there specific things in our play that concern you?

It may feel like it, but I'm not trying to nitpick you to pieces here. I'm trying to get inside how you're processing the game.

At the time when I voted farkran it looked too me like he was just trying to throw out soft reads and didn't really want to commit to anything. Like he didn't want to try scum hunting. Thinking back on it now though I can see reasons on why you wouldn't want to scumhunt as some people try to townhunt day 1 and then use poe for following days but I don't know how he plays.

Rereading his iso today I felt like he had put down more reads than I had realized.

And yeah, players approach reads differently, and also have different levels of acceptance of playstyles not like their own. hence wanting to understand how players are processing the game data.

Im paranoid of you because I respect your guys's game. I can't help but think you guys are playing similar to when I was mafia with you even though I think youre town here. I think im just scared that your mafia game is good that you can make me think your town easily but maybe I have the wrong idea on your game because you guys got caught pretty early by Pooky in the abandoned one.

I felt like koba was playing better than either you or us in that game. I was just trying to figure out how to avoid being the day 1 elim and I didn't think I was out of the woods by a long shot. Not happy with my performance in that game. I'm a little sad that you have such a good impression scum-us game given how sub-par I felt we were.

TSQ I think spews town currently but others think hes scum for some reason. Ive had previous games with him im pretty sure but nothing I can remember about his play. Theres nothing in this game of his that sticks out to me as being scummy but others seem to think so? Maybe they have more experience with him im not sure.

Cabd knows TSQ as a player better than I do. I'm pretty sure this is the first game I've played with him. His playstyle feels off on the sidelines sometimes and that worries me, though it's not necessarily scum-indicative.

LLD I think gets super emotional and I just townread people for that. I haven't checked yet but I THINK they also do as scum so its something im a little worried about but I just end up townreading emotional people. (Not AtE emotion but angry emotion)

She can be super-emotional as scum, too. I don't think that's a safe thing to consider her to be town for. I sympathize with the idea of letting scum sort her out if she's town, but it's not really a safe approach imo.

In post 1675, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1667, WhemeStar wrote:

In post 1648, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1636, WhemeStar wrote:

In post 1560, morph the cat wrote:Bell do you have an S_S read?

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Wheme

You've expressed townreads of Toog and Titus. You've voted (in order) Farkran, Anya, notsci, and whitefire. (plus Bingle, but that looked like a sheep vote)

Did you change votes because you stopped scumreading the previous vote? because the next vote was a stronger scumread? because another wagon looked like it was stronger? Some other reason?

You said something about wanting to townread some players but fearing you'd be wrong(?). Who are the players you're concerned look town but might not be?

I like hopping my votes around to different people when I play. I don't have many strong scumreads yet at all though. Hopefully my votes/people voting me help me find stronger reads. I didn't like Farkrans iso so I voted him. Anya's posts just seemed like coasting/ LHF scum but apparently that's how they always post/play. WhiteFire is actually a scumread of mine because I think this is is how scum firebringer plays even though Im not totally experienced with scum fire. Players im concerned about are you/TSQ/Lady currently.

What did you dislike about Farkran's iso?

I'm not sure what the "this" is in FB's play.

So us/TSQ/LLD are paranoia reads? Are there specific things in our play that concern you?

It may feel like it, but I'm not trying to nitpick you to pieces here. I'm trying to get inside how you're processing the game.

At the time when I voted farkran it looked too me like he was just trying to throw out soft reads and didn't really want to commit to anything. Like he didn't want to try scum hunting. Thinking back on it now though I can see reasons on why you wouldn't want to scumhunt as some people try to townhunt day 1 and then use poe for following days but I don't know how he plays.

Rereading his iso today I felt like he had put down more reads than I had realized.

And yeah, players approach reads differently, and also have different levels of acceptance of playstyles not like their own. hence wanting to understand how players are processing the game data.

Im paranoid of you because I respect your guys's game. I can't help but think you guys are playing similar to when I was mafia with you even though I think youre town here. I think im just scared that your mafia game is good that you can make me think your town easily but maybe I have the wrong idea on your game because you guys got caught pretty early by Pooky in the abandoned one.

I felt like koba was playing better than either you or us in that game. I was just trying to figure out how to avoid being the day 1 elim and I didn't think I was out of the woods by a long shot. Not happy with my performance in that game. I'm a little sad that you have such a good impression scum-us game given how sub-par I felt we were.

TSQ I think spews town currently but others think hes scum for some reason. Ive had previous games with him im pretty sure but nothing I can remember about his play. Theres nothing in this game of his that sticks out to me as being scummy but others seem to think so? Maybe they have more experience with him im not sure.

Cabd knows TSQ as a player better than I do. I'm pretty sure this is the first game I've played with him. His playstyle feels off on the sidelines sometimes and that worries me, though it's not necessarily scum-indicative.

LLD I think gets super emotional and I just townread people for that. I haven't checked yet but I THINK they also do as scum so its something im a little worried about but I just end up townreading emotional people. (Not AtE emotion but angry emotion)

She can be super-emotional as scum, too. I don't think that's a safe thing to consider her to be town for. I sympathize with the idea of letting scum sort her out if she's town, but it's not really a safe approach imo.

This is interesting to me. I'm curious what about my play you think is off to the sidelines. I've got one of the highest post counts in the thread, have been initiating conflict to read people (see interactions with bell guillotina and Titus for instance) and have commented on most things of consequence in the thread. I don't know what more you want from me to be "off" the sidelines.

In post 1676, Thestatusquo wrote:This is interesting to me. I'm curious what about my play you think is off to the sidelines. I've got one of the highest post counts in the thread, have been initiating conflict to read people (see interactions with bell guillotina and Titus for instance) and have commented on most things of consequence in the thread. I don't know what more you want from me to be "off" the sidelines.

Probably not the best way to describe it, though I think I said something similar earlier. There have been a few instances where you've kinda done a drive-by on other players' lines of inquiry, which looked like you could by trying to shut down the line of questioning, and definitely could deflect it off its course. For my general feel reaction when this happens to my own lines of questioning a site search of "hobnail boots" would probably make for interesting reading.

Bingle also has done this, but there's that pesky mod-confirmed trust tell going on.

You've also done a fair bit of off-topic posting, comparatively, though I think the net effect has been beneficial so far.

I think you bite into all the exact same critiques to be fair.

Like literally i think that paragraph is a pretty perfect summation of your own play.

Can we all talk about how ass the wheme wagon is

How about you talk about it instead of just one liners. What is ass about it. You're not doing the poem thing anymore so you're free to use as many words as you need to do so.

In post 1679, Thestatusquo wrote:Like literally i think that paragraph is a pretty perfect summation of your own play.

I'll take that under advisement.

If you decide you're scum please let me know.

In post 1682, morph the cat wrote:

In post 1679, Thestatusquo wrote:Like literally i think that paragraph is a pretty perfect summation of your own play.

I'll take that under advisement.

i think this should be moved to an appellate court

Thestatusquo wrote:Like literally i think that paragraph is a pretty perfect summation of your own play.

I don't think I've described my own playstyle, but large blind spots abound.

Maybe it's a combinatorial thing.

Firebringer are you going to do something at some point?

And ruin my perfect record of doing nothing for the longest time?

im sorry. not interested in 1v1 right now. Maybe some other time

Wheme seems pretty genuine to me and I suspect half or more of the people on his wagon.
To me, it's a bad wagon. It does not help that it appears to be the most viable and *easiest* wagon with the more obvious town players being the only real objectees.

I want to know what happens if we yeet Not mafia

Luckily i don't need you to participate.

Notty you think the wheme wagon is ass come over here

#1667 rings well.

In post 1692, Thestatusquo wrote:Luckily i don't need you to participate.

Notty you think the wheme wagon is ass come over here

if u think ur gonna get support for a wagon based on policy. I think u should know better

In post 1690, Bell wrote:Wheme seems pretty genuine to me and I suspect half or more of the people on his wagon.
To me, it's a bad wagon. It does not help that it appears to be the most viable and *easiest* wagon with the more obvious town players being the only real objectees.

See this is what I suspect morph cat is talking about. I really wanted not science to answer this question, not bell. :/

Pedit this ain't policy bud.

im not ur bud, pal

notsci, what changed your mind re wheme?

In post 1697, morph the cat wrote:notsci, what changed your mind re wheme?

The wagon

I’ll do more things tomorrow or Wednesday shea I’ve had a really shitty day

u know what. ill actually wont just be a dick to u.
shea, my only scumread nobody seems interested in pushing anymore re flea. My interest in talking about recent stuff is waned because alot of its just not that interesting to me.
in fact i don't think anything in last 20 or so pages has actually given me big movements on whats going on besides we had a lazy wagon on wheme for some reason that i don't actually care to try to figure out why it was a strong thing besides apathy and lack of consensus maybe

i want to yeet not mafia cause i think this is game mechanic that means something and i think it could be scum mechanic since no one is claiming it.

what exactly do u want me to participate in