In post 330, Kazyan wrote:I still think you're scum, but this post makes me doubt myself, because making a readslist is a very non-scummy thing to do right now. Scum would be in full-tilt damage control mode.
I don't agree with this at all. It's really easy to just throw out a reads list with zero explanations. People will even look at it and think, "Oh! That person must be scum hunting since they have all these reads." I would encourage you to dig a bit deeper.
In post 333, Anya wrote:VOTE: Kazyan
your role pm is so red that you couldn't restrain yourself with the joker wolf post and now you come up with a taco that's been left to go off for weeks
This however feels like an overreaction to Kazyan's post. Wouldn't it be easier for scum!Kazyan to ignore the reads list and continue scum reading Dann? After all, it's not like people are really scrutinizing the scum reads since it's based on a purported slip.
In post 380, Kazyan wrote:If you guys somehow talk yourself into eliminating me instead of Dann, town just deserves to lose; idk what to say
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In post 409, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:I don't think T3 slipped here, I think that this was a poorly thought out form of humor. With that being said, I don't think this is towny, nor should we allow people to claim malefactor.
Okay, I can buy this read, but...
In post 409, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:This is also a particularly poor post. One that we would be pressuring more if it weren't for T3 being a bigger target.
(In reference to petapan's
18
What precisely makes T3 a bigger target here. The way I see it, if you don't regard
83 as a slip and based on what you said above, you would find this worse than what T3 did. Hence, it would be of greater priority to vote for you. As it stands, it feels you are giving a divergent read from the crowd yet still trying to blend in.
In post 415, Uncle Shelby wrote:I think the second sentence is too presumptive, but this is an interesting thought.
(In reference to Kakeguri's
409 Why do you think it's too presumptive? I think it logically follows if you take the first sentence as true.
Noting this for the future.
In post 423, unwnd wrote:town bumming it up this multiball squad would not feel bad about accidentally hammering or even getting him close to hammer.
How many scum are you presuming here? We need a ridiculously high number of votes to eliminate a player; even if we presume 7 scum, that's still 5 additional town votes that are needed. It's really tough to garner that many votes in such a time, and it's not a fair assumption to make that all scum would be voting town Dannflor right now. Some will avoid it for town credit, etc.
I mean, he could be, he could not be. It's a probabilistic argument we're making here; it seems unlikely that scum T3 reacted in the way he did.
In post 431, Kazyan wrote:Because 1) I'm in disbelief that Dann is on the verge of getting away with this and 2) how the obligatory Day 1 argument about me is happening again
1) Your fears seem rather unfounded. The vast majority of the thread has expressed a negative read on T3/Dannflor.
2) What might this argument be? Why are you so fearful when again, we're the only ones who have really expressed a negative read on you to this point?
(In reference to Kazyan's
431 How was that post town-indicative? The way I see it is that Kazyan is way too concerned with their own perception and isn't spending enough time doing actual hunting. Like, their contributions to the game so far have basically been to 1) answer an RQS that didn't exist 2) feign a townslip by claiming they don't know what color private topics are for mafia 3) self vote themselves (I admit, I didn't notice this til now, but their initial post is indeed a self-vote) 4) vote T3 and 5) talk multiple times about how they shouldn't be limmed. Of the things I listed, only one of them has any bearing of relevance to scum hunting, and
111 doesn't even explain the reason for the T3 vote. Rather, it comes across as a sheep vote.
That post looks /nothing/ like a Titus post. Why do you keep associating it with Titus? And perhaps more importantly, how is this comment relevant to finding scum?
It is really surprising to me how many people are giving Kazyan a free pass for it. Explain please.
In post 459, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:I'm not sure what the fascination with literally claiming scum is, but it remains strictly anti-town beyond being jokey in this game.
(In reference to kdowns's
203 I find it interesting you interpreted it as a werewolf who investigates as mafia to cops rather than as a townie who investigates as werewolf to seers (the werewolf equivalent of cop for those of you not as familiar with this terminology). I don't think the comment is scummy per se, but it does give some insight into the lens you are viewing the game through.
In post 472, ManateeDude wrote:like I just don't see how a scum player lets themselves post the way he has been without considering how bad it looks. the AtE also seems pretty genuine
So "Too scummy to be scum" huh... I would buy this perhaps if Kazyan actually gave evidence of scum hunting; so far, Kazyan has not done that.
You are officially on my watchlist.
He pretty much did....
In post 491, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:This is not a good look for you. Best thing you can do if you're town is to immediately role claim to clear things up.
(In reference to Dannflor's
276 That was a full claim. It's perhaps easy to overlook at first because of ambiguity, but when he double downs on it and disassociates (probably not the best word here) himself from his slot's previous claims, it becomes pretty clear that he is saying he is a townie as in he is a VT this game.
In post 491, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:That was a very serious looking claim and I'm not willing to let you walk it back. It wouldn't be right to be able to change the die roll after you've seen the results, would it?
It /could/ have been a serious claim, especially on first glance, but the evidence overwhelming points towards it was not. Just because something "could be" doesn't mean it "actually is".
In post 497, Dannflor wrote:no guys I'm literally a vanilla townie I have i not made that clear to everyone by now
Clearly, people have trouble resolving ambiguity. I think you were fairly clear, but being explicit always helps.
At bottom of
page 20.
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This game has way too much spamposting. For many of you, you can communicate what you do in five posts in a single post.
~Ircher
