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In post 1668, Green Cap Boys wrote:i woke up, i skimmed the past few pages, i realized lilith posted only twice and neither of those posts were actual content, so here we go again

Oh hey, I didn't read this but yes

Norwegianboy's case on RCE isn't terrible and I'm gonna go ISOing when I find time later. RCE's kinda just flown under my radar since his rep in so some UAVs may be in order

In post 1308, RCEnigma wrote:do i think we ran 3 consecutive scum up to e-1 and let all of them go? not really.

Also Titus!scum only makes sense to me here if they've set up a deepwolf already (that makes gcb, norwee, or emperor) OR they're playing a distancing buss (norwee, i guess dwlee but i dont buy either at this point). so i guess the long and short is that Scum!Titus doesnt take this line with Scum!FC as their partner.

im not really considering the norwee/Titus distancing UNLESS titus flips scum.

But for now: Why is Titus more encouraged to do what she did if there's a deepwolf? The end result is a ton of pressure and her eventually getting voted out, which would take attention of her partners regardless of their positions in the hierarchy

In post 1651, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I probably should have checked Emperor. That was an bad call.

You are forgiven just this once, but misstep further and I shall unleash JarJar on you

In post 1665, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Fairy circle

When I wake up I'll think about my own hero solve.

Because the last hero solve went down so well, right

Hey Mastina, small problem with your plan...

You're trying to read Mom thinking faer me. Soooo no. I can't work it out. Because your basis is wrong.

-Malefleacent.

In post 1673, The Emperor wrote:I don't think the Titus wagon was scum-driven, Dwlee and NorwegianBoy's exasperation there seemed pretty genuine. Other two votes were the Cap Boys who just overall seem town and Faircy Circle, who I'm unsure on and will have to check how they ended up on Titus

Going back to this, it means the equity of Fairy Child being scum who Titus was countered for is a lot less likely, given Titus didn't seem to be pushed by scum

It actually makes another player's actions a lot more sus if Fairy Child is also town but this shall be expanded on later

In post 1643, RCEnigma wrote:I took a shot at FC last night hoping that at least two others saw the major swing away from FCs elim yesterday. I was 100% when I said that a town!Titus flip would earn FC a bullet.

Mastina you are going to have to hardsell bingle as scum imo, if he is he'd have to be a far removed third from FC and whichever of Norwee/T3/dwlee is just scum and not derptowning this game.

Funny that given my hard defence of Titus.

-Malefleacent with a BSEG

Anyhoo that was an interesting read.
Good to see someone lit Mastinas fire.
RCE as questionable as ever

And next time I'm keeping my Veto.

-Malefleacent

Absolutely done with this game. Since everyone has checked in, I’m assuming all pain potions have been claimed already if used. We harmographied Bingle and can confirm Fairy Circle pain potioned him. So at least one of these slots is town, as I certainly don’t think scum is going around pain potioning each other. which makes mastina’s solve literally impossible.

- lilith

I’m fully expecting to be the elimination so no way am I doing a full reread.

Here are my sticking points with GCB:
town!datisi has never once approached me like this - in particular the condescending and patronizing tone. I’d make a guess that town!datisi doesn’t approach anyone with that kind of tone. Retti is apparently staying far away from me, probably because I know who he is. why do GCB want to get rid of our slot so badly? I’d venture a guess it’s because I’m the only one in this game not townreading them and the only one with knowledge of Retti’s identity.

- lilith

regardless of your alignment datisi, and actually regardless of my alignment as well, your attitude towards me has been really hurtful. I told everyone that I was having mental health issues and you just shat on me. I’m not forgetting that.

I also fully expect you and mastina and whoever else are about to scream “ATE!!!!” but I don’t care about surviving anymore. scream AtE all you want.

- lilith

with our death and confirmation of our harmography result, I hope mastina is able to reevaluate correctly because unfortunately she’s the only person I’m townreading with any confidence. I think fairy circle and bingle are probably both town, bingle slightly less likely to be town.

- lilith

i'm sorry, where did i shit on you when you said you were having mental health issues?

and where was my tone patronizing? also you can say all you want how we're scum trying desperately hard to yeet you because you're the only slot that doesn't townread us, but i kinda find it doubtful you don't consider the possibility of "hey, my experience with lilith is that she's obvtown as fuck when she's town, and she's a non-presence here, and continues being a non-presence when called out on it, something's up with that!"

-D

started to read through some datisi games but I’m not sure I really have a good conclusion. at some level I recognize logically that my brain is just going to be biased because of how upset I am, which is making it very difficult to be objective about anything.

tired and have to go to work. honestly if we die before I get back that just saves me the effort of having to post in this awful game again. I probably don’t have much else to say that will be useful.

- lilith

In post 1682, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:So at least one of these slots is town, as I certainly don’t think scum is going around pain potioning each other. which makes mastina’s solve literally impossible.

Or scum is playing 100 IQ.

In post 1686, Green Cap Boys wrote:i'm sorry, where did i shit on you when you said you were having mental health issues?

and where was my tone patronizing? also you can say all you want how we're scum trying desperately hard to yeet you because you're the only slot that doesn't townread us, but i kinda find it doubtful you don't consider the possibility of "hey, my experience with lilith is that she's obvtown as fuck when she's town, and she's a non-presence here, and continues being a non-presence when called out on it, something's up with that!"

-D

I’ve repeatedly explained why I was having trouble getting into this game, which was that I was having anxiety attacks about FGO for about four weeks straight, which overlapped with almost all of D1 of this game. your responses to me since then have only gotten more condescending in tone and you’ve basically told me that I was using it as an excuse and AtEing. I was genuinely struggling to produce reads or content because of it but instead of trying to engage with me, I was told I was being over the top and wasn’t allowed to feel frustrated because it should be understandable that people scumread me when I’m struggling. ok.

not responding to you anymore.

In post 1688, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 1682, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:So at least one of these slots is town, as I certainly don’t think scum is going around pain potioning each other. which makes mastina’s solve literally impossible.

Or scum is playing 100 IQ.

I don’t think scum is going to waste their potions like that? or risk a team member dying to a town pain?

- lilith

ok, i see you're more interested in highlighting how you should've been given a free pass than actually working with me or trying to prove your alignment. back to lurking for me.

-D

I for one, think this game is great and appreciate everyone around here.

Sorry to Titus, but nothing personal. I just get harsh when i think they are scum.

In post 1691, Green Cap Boys wrote:ok, i see you're more interested in highlighting how you should've been given a free pass than actually working with me or trying to prove your alignment. back to lurking for me.

-D

I’m trying to explain to you because you asked. I have no interest in trying to hash out anything with you because, as I’ve said before, I don’t think anything I say is going to change your mind and see no point in putting myself through that for no impact.

yes, go ahead and kill me. I’m literally saying I’ve accepted it.

- lilith

norwee, if you want to talk about stuff I’ll make an effort.

- lilith

because i assume you wouldn't lie about something like this to gain an advantage and because i like you as a person: i am sorry if anything i said was hurtful.

that does not change the fact that your content has been lacking, to say the very least. i've repeated this multiple times. the way to change my mind is to put out some content that actually shows a townie perspective, that's all i need. and that's also why i dislike the pre-emptive "i see nothing will change your mind, so i won't even try" attitude.

-D

In post 1695, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:norwee, if you want to talk about stuff I’ll make an effort.

- lilith

You could address what i said about you in post 1637/1638

sure. I think it usually takes me a couple games to feel “calibrated” with how someone plays and get a feel for them. I only remember one game that I scumread you in though, the osuka one? and I think that was mostly because I was feeling really strongly about that conversation with una. so the scumread on you was an emotional one, as best as I can remember.

if there are other games we’ve played together, I don’t remember them. I do think I read you correctly in team mafia (though there’s no proof since my team wasn’t in that game). after getting to know your playstyle a bit, in some ways I think we react similarly to things and so your reaction to SS felt like how I would have reacted in the moment, and knowing you are on the emotional side like me made me feel like that was genuine. At the time I also thought you would have kept pushing us if you were scum. I’m not sure if I still believe that but that’s what I thought at the time.

- lilith

In post 1698, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I’m not sure if I still believe that but that’s what I thought at the time.

How so?