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Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:31 pm**

I am being dumb again, what I mean is I do not know if a uPick means the names and flavors and inputs from players have anything to do with alignments when they shake out in role assignments.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:31 pm**

In post 1672, Pavowski wrote:
In post 1668, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1664, Pavowski wrote:Unless roles are named at random, it doesn't seem a particularly townsided role to draw.
This game is literally a uPick
This being my first such game I don't actually know what that means but I'm assuming I have once again committed a stupid

I was going to clarify this anyway but "not particularly townsided" =\= scum. Just noting that rosencrantz is at best a useful idiot to the villain of Hamlet and at worst a low level thug in that guy's pocket. (If flavor is at all alignment-indicative.)

But on the other hand you could say he is in the nobility and therefore townsided and look, I'm just happy to have something in my wheelhouse to talk about since I feel out of my depth in the recent discussios ok?

In a uPick, your flavor is completely divorced from your alignment.

You send your flavor choices to the mod. The mod assigns everyone their Flavor. THEN the mod rolls for alignment. Since Flavor is chosen before the mod knows your alignment, it can never be indicative of the other.

A Harry Potter uPick could just as easily end up with a town aligned Voldemort or a scum aligned Harry.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:32 pm**

Why would scum watch skybird instead of one of the PR magnets in the game

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:32 pm**

In post 1675, Pavowski wrote:I am being dumb again, what I mean is I do not know if a uPick means the names and flavors and inputs from players have anything to do with alignments when they shake out in role assignments.

No. The flavor comes from the players, and then the mod uses a computer to randomize the alignments

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:36 pm**

I am likely to vote Galron at this point

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:36 pm**

In post 1672, Pavowski wrote:This being my first such game I don't actually know what that means but I'm assuming I have once again committed a stupid

we picked our characters, so the mafia aren't all going to be villains or vice versa

i didn't choose a particularly heroic character myself

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:37 pm**

I am gonna try and stay really vague, and I suggest everyone else does too.

Every one of my ability flavor names are lines that were directly spoken by my character. So, I find it hard to believe that Galron's ability flavor name was spoken by Caliban in The Tempest if he really is Rosencrantz from Hamlet.

It seems more likely that he is fake claiming.

Does anyone have a flavor name that does not match to a quote from their character? Looking for just a simple yes/no here, don't need to tell me what it says

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:38 pm**

Ironically our backup picks were picks I submitted because the cast had crossover in the Harry Potter universe

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:40 pm**

Our quotes match our character

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:43 pm**

i think it's best that i not answer this question

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:49 pm**

In post 3, fferyllt wrote:
Sample Role PM
You are
Roderigo
, of
Othello
.

-

Abilities:

All the world's a stage:
Your greatest abilities of all, your voice and your vote

I will make myself known to Desdemona:
Once during the game you can target target a player and write a message for me to deliver to them anonymously. If the player you send the message to is Desdemona, then you will gain a neighborhood with them for that Night.

Slings and Arrows:
You may suffer some.

Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind:
There may be other aspects of your role of which you are currently unaware.

The jewels you have had from me

With nought but truth. I have wasted myself out of my means.:
You can buy one additional chance to find Desdemona. The cost will be
3 gold coins
.

"I will make myself known to Desdemona" - Line spoken by Rodrigo in Othello

"Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind" -

Line spoken by Helena in Midsummer

"The jewels you have had from me" - Line spoken by Rodrigo in Othello

"With nought but truth. I have wasted myself out of my means" - Line spoken by Rodrigo in Othello

Hmmm. The Sample Role PM has an example of one that does not match, although it also has 3 that do

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:50 pm**

In post 1681, Lukewarm wrote:Does anyone have a flavor name that does not match to a quote from their character? Looking for just a simple yes/no here, don't need to tell me what it says

mine matches

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:53 pm**

Okay, for him to be town that means that he needs to have happened to visit the person who was the night kill (but did not kill them) AND happen to have visited a person who had gold stolen from them (but did not steal from them) AND happen to be the only person with a flavor name pulled from a different play (and apparently only one flavor name despite having already claimed two abilities?)

Or, he is just scum.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:54 pm**

I'm getting Deja vu on Spiffeh's posts. I could swear he said something similar the last game I played with him and he *totally* got owned that game. While using a similar argument as to why I shouldn't let scum hammer saint me.

-Bell

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:55 pm**

I was not owned.

-Bell

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:56 pm**

Getting a little tired of the fist fighting though and think things have gotten kind of toxic and am ready to go to night preferably without me being dead because I kinda wanna see what happens at night.

-Bell

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:56 pm**

In post 1689, Icebox wrote:I was not owned.

-Bell

I was owned

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:57 pm**

In post 1687, Lukewarm wrote:Okay, for him to be town that means that he needs to have happened to visit the person who was the night kill (but did not kill them) AND happen to have visited a person who had gold stolen from them (but did not steal from them) AND happen to be the only person with a flavor name pulled from a different play (and apparently only one flavor name despite having already claimed two abilities?)

Or, he is just scum.

I still worry he is town but there are just too many problems at this stage.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:59 pm**

I'm out right going to say that Lukewarm's push on Galron feels really misguided in terms of both rhetoric and disposition. He's arguing backwards.

-Bell

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:01 pm**

I dunno if he's pushing through a miselim purposefully or not. /:
I've sat through like 3 of these gotcha role PM things before and each time they ended up being town, and I think they were actually in a row. It's tiring. Try a different angle.

-Bell

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:03 pm**

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:04 pm**

Yes? Did I miss something? there were like 5 new pages.
-Bell

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:05 pm**

In post 1693, Icebox wrote:I'm out right going to say that Lukewarm's push on Galron feels really misguided in terms of both rhetoric and disposition. He's arguing backwards.

-Bell

My argument is that he was tracked to the scum night kill and was tracked to a town player that had their gold stolen and he appears to be lying about his flavor. Which is plenty good enough for me. Better then literally any other option on the table imo.

(tbh, the double track was already good enough for me even before the flavor claim shenanigans, but that sure did spark my interest all over again)

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:05 pm**

is cephrir scum yes or yes

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:06 pm**

I've read your argument.
How is he lying about his flavor?

-Bell

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