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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:22 am
by Dorsey
And even then, the condescension. Like what are you people like IRL? This is a game, why are you being snarky and calling people idiots? What's the point?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:26 am
by Andresvmb
Sigh.

@Dorsey say I think you’re Town here and willing to listen to you. Would you mind explaining to me? I want to better understand what you’re seeing in those groups.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:28 am
by Wiki
In post 1661, Dorsey wrote:I'm fine with dying, it's really not that serious. Clearly I struck a chord with scum since I'm being wagoned over geraintm and Almost50, so do what you will with that. This random "provide answers" bit is cheap, inconsistent and hypocritical - answers to what?
Dorsey is either town, or very noob scum. Because after this post he is not pr anymore.
Usually mafia prepares for claiming in this situation. Becaise mafia tries not to be hanged in any cost.
But maybe he is so newbie he just didnt think about it, playing for scum.

I think he is more town

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:30 am
by Wiki
In post 1668, Dorsey wrote:Because you need me dead to believe me and this thread is a mob of rhetoric I wouldn't be too butthurt to leave. Clearly I've stumbled into the wrong place.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:32 am
by Dorsey
I don't have the paper anymore, but I pretty much wrote all the names in color pencil while doing homework and put all the same color names in the same bracket. I had no idea it'd be so groundbreaking and controversial.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:34 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1679, Dorsey wrote:I don't have the paper anymore, but I pretty much wrote all the names in color pencil while doing homework and put all the same color names in the same bracket. I had no idea it'd be so groundbreaking and controversial.
It’s not about it being groundbreaking or controversial. I’m just trying to understand how you arrived where you did, see if I agree. It helps me read you to some extent (despite you calling a bunch of this worthless rhetoric), and it might make me reconsider in certain places.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:41 am
by Dorsey
Do you want to know what colors they were or something...?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:46 am
by Dorsey
And another thing. My votes were criticized but looking back they were extremely minimal impact, so why does it matter? Shouldn't you focus on votes that moved or forged dangerous wagons? There's so much of this that's arbitrary that when you try to pretend one thing isn't or shouldn't be, it's kind of difficult to not get whiplash from the absurdity. You're making up reasons to justify foolishness. Which in a way is funny, but not if you don't acknowledge the ridiculousness of it. You can't pretend that you're doing serious work.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:47 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1317, Dorsey wrote: I feel there's scum in each group [Andres/Iconeum/T3], [Three/Salsabil/Dwlee], and [Datisi/Almost50].
No. With these groupings, you are basically saying that you don’t think T3, Ico and I are all Scum together for example. You’re also basically saying that Three, Salsa, and DW are probably not all Scum together. Otherwise, it would be hard for the groupings you’ve created to throw out 4 Scum. I want to understand your thought process. That’s all.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:49 am
by Wiki
In post 1230, Datisi wrote:i think i'm in agreement with andres that dorsey kinda doesn't feel like scum here
like, i dunno, scum usually at least *tries* to have some sorta progression or appearing of being solvey or whatever
while dorsey lowkey gives zero shits right now

that said at some point i will take the n_m approach to that slot which is solve it before yelo if they don't start actually playing, so
Few datisi's posts later :]
[quote="In post 1331, Datisi"
VOTE: dorsey[/quote]

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:51 am
by Dwlee99
Dorsey how do you think we should find mafia

I agree people can be toxic but calling talking to each other "meaningless rhetoric" or whatever is just criticizing how the game works at all

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:51 am
by Wiki
If it counts, i VOTE: gera again

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:56 am
by Dwlee99
Idk who is evil anymore someone help

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:59 am
by Wiki
So difficult to understand that gera is a scum.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:02 am
by Dwlee99
Gera plays weird always

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:07 am
by Selynee
In post 1687, Dwlee99 wrote:Idk who is evil anymore someone help

Probably not Dorsey...
I think any mafia team would have coaxed him into playing differently.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:10 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1689, Dwlee99 wrote:Gera plays weird always
I think you need to make a genuine effort to try and sort T3 here.

Also, if you assume Dorsey is Town, what do you think that points to?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:12 am
by Wiki
In post 1186, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 1181, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Dorsey
Ok


UNVOTE: Wiki

VOTE: Dorsey
In post 1392, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1191, T3 wrote:
In post 1081, Dorsey wrote:I don't really get the hostility. I thought this was supposed to be fun.

VOTE: Andresvmb
VOTE: dorsey
good goooooood
if dorsey is town, i will destroy these slots

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:14 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1692, Wiki wrote:
In post 1186, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 1181, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Dorsey
Ok


UNVOTE: Wiki

VOTE: Dorsey
In post 1392, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1191, T3 wrote:
In post 1081, Dorsey wrote:I don't really get the hostility. I thought this was supposed to be fun.

VOTE: Andresvmb
VOTE: dorsey
good goooooood
if dorsey is town, i will destroy these slots
Why do you make no mention of Datisi here? Or Three?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:16 am
by Wiki
Datisi maybe will be checked.
I dont know how to read Three for now, i skip him a bit.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:32 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1691, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1689, Dwlee99 wrote:Gera plays weird always
I think you need to make a genuine effort to try and sort T3 here.

Also, if you assume Dorsey is Town, what do you think that points to?
Okay

T3 come be sorted

I'm using bogo sort so it might take a while...

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:33 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1637, Iconeum wrote:@Andres do you honestly like the sheeple you have with you?

Doesn't dorsey look like a juicy wagon to you?
I'd be down running up Looker as an alternative, what do you think about that?
Dorsey is now a bad execution. I hope you can see that yeah? Which means, you should reconsider your worldview a bit. I know I am.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:55 am
by Dorsey
Sorry, I have school.
@Andres, I was half paying attention and trying to procrastinate. There were three groups but there are four mafia - there'd have to be two in a group if that's how you interpreted it.

@Dwlee - I like the game, I think it's fun, but I think something deeper is going on when it's not lighthearted. And I think you find mafia by randomly pressing different spots until you find a pattern or something to go on, which I think is becoming more apparent: some slots are getting pressed whereas others are not - why? What connection do they have with each other? And how can you clarify that when the "logic" being proposed is inconsistent and cherry-picked? I mean, if you're protecting your friend because you want to play with them longer, just say that. But saying that I'm not contributing because you didn't understand one of my posts is a joke I feel is going over everyone's head but mine.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:56 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1696, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1637, Iconeum wrote:@Andres do you honestly like the sheeple you have with you?

Doesn't dorsey look like a juicy wagon to you?
I'd be down running up Looker as an alternative, what do you think about that?
Dorsey is now a bad execution. I hope you can see that yeah? Which means, you should reconsider your worldview a bit. I know I am.
Btw I’m engaging you directly because I think you’re Town. I ISO’ed you, and you seem to actively want to diffuse arguments at times in ways perhaps you wouldn’t as Scum. Like you engaged in a back and forth with Wiki, but you ended up trying to lighten up the mood instead of raising the stakes. I TR that. I also think the way you’ve approached T3 is genuine (you could hard SR there given some of the things T3 has said, but you don’t). I guess it’s possible you and T3 are distancing (which might explain why you seem to refuse to want to vote there despite having good reasons to), but I’m not perceiving it that way.

I think you have too much of a soft spot for Datisi, and I would watch out for that. I’ve also downgraded Wiki, but as much as I try to see them as Scum, I still think the amount of nonsense they’re pushing is diminishing their influence in a way Scum might care not to. Yelling geraintm is 100% Scum is just totally absurd. And they seem to lose interest too quickly after pushing slots with massive amounts of confidence (see the push on DW, Datisi, or even the push on you to some extent).

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:56 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1697, Dorsey wrote:@Dwlee - I like the game, I think it's fun, but I think something deeper is going on when it's not lighthearted. And I think you find mafia by randomly pressing different spots until you find a pattern or something to go on, which I think is becoming more apparent: some slots are getting pressed whereas others are not - why? What connection do they have with each other? And how can you clarify that when the "logic" being proposed is inconsistent and cherry-picked? I mean, if you're protecting your friend because you want to play with them longer, just say that. But saying that I'm not contributing because you didn't understand one of my posts is a joke I feel is going over everyone's head but mine.
I feel like I need examples cause I don't think I'm reading closely enough to know what your vague references to events mean