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In post 16662, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16651, Vecna wrote:

In post 16291, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Elbrin's replace out was pretty town yet Gork is being scum read.

Lolwut? Elbrin's replace out is one of the main reasons people have been scumreading the slot so badly. That shit was more slippery than an eel in an oilstore.

Gorkington being able to salvage the slot (or trick me in the way he did) is quite the godsent.

Why would tricking you be a godsend?
Wouldn't that be a bad thing?
What has Gork done to "salvage the slot"?

In post 16783, Vecna wrote:

In post 16597, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:Which is why I thought scum had Hanging Gardens tbh, since Fro99er was a bit of a no brainer I think? He was the most widely townread and willing to work with others even if he was all over the place.
My experience with PV is he doesn't get nightkilled early in the game but rather left for a lategame mislynch or nightkill. (Shadorun, Undertale) I really wasn't thinking of him as a viable protect given that, though Ali reamed me somewhat on not protecting PV when I claimed to him.
Kyouko wouldn't have died because he was being pushed on, he was lynchbait, so there's no point in protecting him there imo. I don't remember him ever having good reads in my mini normal either tbh. Him and Creature would have been seen as mislynchable, where Caesar I would have thought could normally put up a fight against his lynch. Once I realized he was seen as mislynchable as well I moved on to the obvtown neighborizer protect. I'm still not entirely sure Pine was targeted over Ali tbh. Unless scum got fed up with him not getting mislynched and decided to off him that way instead?

Anyway fair warning, my grandmother was in a place hit by a cyclone recently, tore roofs off houses and such, so I might end up V/LA since when we managed to get her on the phone just now she broke down... I might fly up to see if there's anything I can do once they allow flights there again. I'll announce it here if/when it happens and PM the mod but yeah.

And you didnt think this was suspicious, given the fact PV ended up dead?

In post 16784, Vecna wrote: Also, gl with the grandmother situation, thats rough.

In post 16803, nancy wrote:OK. But to be frank I'd rather follow RC's plans.

In post 16679, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16658, Vecna wrote:

In post 16299, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16292, davesaz wrote:

In post 15852, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 15830, Vecna wrote:I visited Nancy, with the IF being a tracker visit, which cannot happen anymore.

I thought the whole point of you claiming to visit Nancy was to get a game breaking event of basically catching scum trying to shoot her so you targeted her and a dead tracker. You are going to have to explain this to me like I'm 2 or just requote your stuffs.

I got the impression that Vecna said he did what he did to get proof that Creature is town and RB'd him. None of it logically makes sense. It will be interesting reading the next 17 pages to see if this has been answered, and how. It's fun replying inline with catchups this way, I might change to doing it this way all the time.

Vecna is just scum but if he'll bus nancy and fix his reads then I'm okay with him inventing bullshit. It's obviously bullshit. No townie goes I'm going to test Creature's roleblock when scum wouldn't claim the goddamn roleblock in the first place XD

Like Vecna's grasping for straws at this point when the simplest answer is

Alisae is town for D1 claim.
Senpai is obvious town doc.
Leonshade wagon had scum on it.
Davesaz is parity cop or scum meaning that Davesaz and Creature are same alignment. Further meaning why the hell would dave protect those two slots not under suspicion? Maxous yeah but Creature...cmon
RC is town because Drixx.

This entire day has been trying to get me to bend on obvTown so they have lynches later. C'mon. Both wagons are slow because they are scum.

Youre missing the obvious point; Maxous wasnt dead yet when I sent in my hagia sofia order to confirm whether creature roleblocked me, so I simply did not know whether the Davesaz result was on double town or double scum. If you read my posts before night youll see my reads there were heavily favoured towards them being scum together so I was expecting creature to RB davesaz instead of me as he claimed - so I wanted to creature a small opportunity to catch him.

That doesn't make sense though. It relies on a mystical idea of Red Fort nancy never crumbed or expressed desire of building.

In post 16680, RadiantCowbells wrote:I expressed my view that scum took the roleblocker. I also have no idea whether scum have daychat or not. I'm going to go off of my reads before I worry about setup spec.

And FTR: I'm starting to feel it's very unlikely that scum have the original vig role.

In post 16698, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:

In post 16678, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

In post 16676, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:

In post 16668, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

In post 16665, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:@LUV So you're arguing scum sent out the widely scumread player to do the nightkill where their day game has been good enough that we haven't lynched scum yet.
Because I don't think the way the game has gone so far points to scum being that stupid when they'd likely know the roleblocker is town, and I don't buy that scum wouldn't have tried to build the roleblocker.
Like, if scum haven't bussed by now what makes you think they'd do something designed for a setup to bus?

No the game points to scum being cocky, so yes, I can buy them sending Gork.

Ok what about the game points to scum being cocky here then?

Maybe the 7-0 sweep.

Also, you clearly don't understand what "cocky" means.

The game being 7-0 doesn't point to scum being cocky unless we flip scum that was being cocky. You're assuming that scum would be cocky at this point because you would be, and even if you think scum are cocky this game? The main person I can think that fits with that is Vecna. Who you townread.

In post 16706, MathBlade wrote:nancy -- Vecna scum do you see it now?

In post 16812, Vecna wrote:

In post 16706, MathBlade wrote:nancy -- Vecna scum do you see it now?

If you really think that if Nancy is scum, RC is town - youre being blind to whats happening.

Theyre either HARD HARD town together, or running this game as scum together. Either way, one of your 3 reads in NANCY/NERO/RC is -wrong-.

There is absolutely no alternative. Your scumread on me clouds every single judgement you have.

It is a sad sight for sore eyes.

In post 16721, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16710, Vecna wrote:

In post 16444, Gorkington wrote:does nancy/nero both being scum even make sense?
that whole interaction with them earlier was just scum theater?

Im starting to believe less and less that its not a bus yeah...

You realize I had suggested this before right and you laughed and called me crazy?

(Paraphrase)

How is the plan Vecna?

In post 16722, nancy wrote:

In post 16706, MathBlade wrote:nancy -- Vecna scum do you see it now?

I can see a world where Vecna is scum but it's still a very far-away one. Need to do more work in PT to see if I can make sense of it, there was a point in this game where I was scumreading him so I have to go back and look at what that was I suppose and reason out the read all over again. He's not locktown, but I'm still TRing him. I have no idea what is going on with his progression right now.

In post 16732, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16727, Vecna wrote:

In post 16478, nancy wrote:

In post 16340, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16334, nancy wrote:

In post 15819, RadiantCowbells wrote:me/luv taking vig, nancy/leon taking big ben, and caesar going for rolestopper, sure

This, except I go for priority. Keep in mind if there is more than 1 Town in the vig pool we basically autolose.

When we can prove scum took neighborizer there is a 0% chance of you not being lynched because then we know scum don't have the first vig as I know suspect they don't.

Stop being survivalistic.

Name the scum team.

I'm still catching up btw, not totally up to date on thread. If you want me to guess at the scumteam, I can.


{Aslan, Caesar, Cowbells, Leonshade, MathBlade, Notice, PV} - locktown
{Creature, Vecna}
{}
{} - null
{Gorkington}
{}
{CK, davesaz, LUV, Nero} - lockscum

One of my Towns might be scum. Creature would be the likeliest candidate, if I had to pick one.

My best guess at a team: {CK, davesaz, Gorkington, LUV, Nero}

Why is ceasar lock-town in this? And how can you be so certain about Davesaz?

Those are old reads from nancy

I don't see why you and nancy are talking as if they are current ones?

In post 16744, nancy wrote:

In post 16738, Vecna wrote:Nancy talk to me about the following; What happened to the great zimbabwe? Im only here scumreading you because of that inconsistency. Like, did scum just go all in just to frame you? It doesnt make sense.....I can totally see the great wall being on Nero. ugh.

I cannot see a scenario where they have a plausible way to get both vigs, and can dedicate everything to frame you for a mislynch today.

What inconsistency? How is me not getting Zimbabwe a frame? I wouldn't be surprised if scum went for it, that wonder was fucking imbalanced as hell.

In post 16750, RadiantCowbells wrote:Someone needs to actually attempt to build forbidden palace.

In post 16753, MathBlade wrote:

In post 16745, Vecna wrote:

In post 16524, MathBlade wrote:@nancy so Dave is logically Town? Along with Creature?

Nah if Nancy is town.....

Then people are majorly WRONG either about

Alisae + Notice town duo

OR

Davesaz (+ creature) town duo.

There is no other way.

And if you'd just let go of that silly scumread of mine, you'd see this.

There has to be an error somewhere math

THERE HAS TO BE AN ERROR SOMEWHERE IN YOUR ASSUMPTIONS

YOU NEED TO SEE IT.

My scumread of you is based on your play.

Those are all lock Town to me.

Me + Alisae+BaeReed+Dave+Creature = 5 lock Town

RC likely town makes 6.

Caesar is scum or someone got Forbidden Palace to stop him.

In post 16818, Vecna wrote:This game is absolutely amazing and a total abomination at the same time.

In post 16811, Vecna wrote:Doing a fake replace out does not a cocky scum make.

That was genuine frustration.

In post 16756, RadiantCowbells wrote:My issue at this point is that I'm running out of potential scum slots.

I honestly am starting to think it's not impossible that Peregrine is actually scum

In post 16822, Vecna wrote:

In post 16756, RadiantCowbells wrote:My issue at this point is that I'm running out of potential scum slots.

I honestly am starting to think it's not impossible that Peregrine is actually scum

I know how you feel, but its still rather possible for there to be a scumteam without him.

Leon/Nero/Dave/CK/Ceasar

Makes complete sense with everything.

In fact, id totally expect this group of people to be the type NOT to pick up daychat since theyre all little ego-maniacs ( ) that want all-star wonders.

That would explain why they had to pick up the great zimbabwe later. And why Nancy is now in the shitter.