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Not the same.

There's a certain amount of awkardness that comes along with coming to a new site, especially in emotional situations people are more likely to be all over the place and contradict themselves.

Honestly I don't think contradictions are that much of a scumtell in general.

Where did he back off his naomi push?

It wasn't a contradiction? He simple backed off when the atmosphere wasn't anti Naomi.

Thing is, the atmosphere was very pro-naomi the entire time. Backing off when someone calls you out shows that you are unconfident, not scum.

The "contradiction" was his response to your vote.

I see what you mean though. When people argued against him his tone got less confident.

I don't think that makes him scum.

In post 1703, Infinity 324 wrote:Thing is, the atmosphere was very pro-naomi the entire time. Backing off when someone calls you out shows that you are unconfident, not scum.

The "contradiction" was his response to your vote.

Backing off is more of a scum thing

Hmm, you seem to be less confident that when we started this discussion, you must be scum!

(it's also a newb thing/new to the site thing imo)

If you're scum and you try to push on a universally townread player, you better be damn confident to do so.

Or just playing dumb, but manuel doesn't look like that to me.

In post 1707, Infinity 324 wrote:If you're scum and you try to push on a universally townread player, you better be damn confident to do so.

Or just playing dumb, but manuel doesn't look like that to me.

But hats why he backed off....do you read your own posts?

In post 1696, Infinity 324 wrote:PEdit: slandaar at least claim whether you're a PR, there's no downside unless you're investigative and scum won't know whether you are or not.

Lets think about it.

We have 2 dead PR (powerfulish)

Why would we claim the last 2-3 PR for scum to kill before they can take their action tonight?

And then when scum have PR of their own you are making the game too easy for them.

What are you doing?

Massclaim tomorrow. Claiming today is idiocy and I won't be a part of it.

But he wouldn't have started pushing her in the first place if he was scum.

PEdit: scum pr probably won't be useful tonight. If you need me to spell it out I will.

Scum don't know if pr's are investigative so they're basically shooting in the dark.

Too many people already claimed. You do nothing but give yourself wiggle room tomorrow

I really don't feel like arguing it.

There are 11 alive - 3 scum = 8. Scum either shoot within 8 (depends upon lynch today could be 7) or 2-3

Shooting in the dark indeed.

4 prs already claimed. Odds of hitting an investigative that also has a useful result are pretty low.

They are lower if we don't claim. The end.

In post 1692, Firebringer wrote:

In post 1688, Manuel87 wrote:

In post 1684, Firebringer wrote:If you think I am making stuff up, doesn't that imply I am scum?
Or you just saying I can't read?

Also cut that shit out with LAMIST, thats fucking MU shit.

I am still scumreading your slot and since you dont answer any of my questions i dont see why i should change that read.
Instead of answering questions you make stuff up that is simply not true. After that gets pointed out and you get questioned again you dodge the questions again by asking questions that have no meaning instead.

VOTE: Firebringer

Your questions on me was reads and I have given you many reads if you read my posts, so what question am I dodging exactly?

Also you saying my questions are pointless seems odd because you basically were sitting on either that I wasn't reading or making it up and are still sitting in that same position but voting me like you are confident.

Can you pick one? I am fine with either.
Don't read = discredit
Making it up = you "scum read"

Seriously, either works

You didnt give any reads all you did was quotes some of my posts and say they look scummy and then some made up arguments

In post 1678, Firebringer wrote:The tone is off in that he reads as someone who is confident in his reads but also realizes he has to make shit up

Show me where i did.

In post 1678, Firebringer wrote:so he says the player is LAMIST then pretends his read on KTS is strong

Already mentioned that i never had a strong scumread on KTS. Can you show me why you would think i had?

In post 1678, Firebringer wrote:and then the argument looks fake too

What argument that 3 of my scumreads were not on the wagon? also a fakt you can check that easily
Or that Rasks argument was legit?

[quote="In post 1678and when other people start commenting on Naomi being town, he just backs down all the sudden with a horrible progression to it that just reads like he read the room and was like "Okay, pushing this isn't going anywhere'[/quote]
Already mentioned by Infinity but Naomi was read town since page 5 or so by most of the people with the same reasoning. Also you think my reasoning for reading her town after the townflip is bad or made up?

In post 1683, Manuel87 wrote:

In post 1678, Firebringer wrote:The tone is off in that he reads as someone who is confident in his reads but also realizes he has to make shit up, so he says the player is LAMIST then pretends his read on KTS is strong, and then the argument looks fake too, and when other people start commenting on Naomi being town, he just backs down all the sudden with a horrible progression to it that just reads like he read the room and was like "Okay, pushing this isn't going anywhere'

Wow so much made up stuff and false arguments in such a little post:
When did i ever say i have a strong scumread on KTS?
Also i messed up i meant i hope KTS flips town. That was already mentioned why didnt you quote that?
How was that argument weak? Or do you really disagree that considering you believe she actually contacted the mod about replacing KTS:
if KTS had flipped scum her post about replacing could have been scummotivated
and as soon as he flipped town she was confirmed town?
You think i backed down from my Naomi read because she was townread? That argument is laughable at best.
I think you should stop making stuff up or read the thread carefully.
Also Naomi was hardcore LAMIST.

You didnt answer any of those questions insted you commented on the last part that wasnt even a question but a fact.

In post 1689, Raskolnikov wrote:Manuel and slandaar claim roles please.

PR
Even though i think this is meaningless.

I wonder if going over roles that are most likely not gonna be in a PR pool could make the claims in a smaller pool example: I find it highly unlikely we have something like a N-2 Bomb

I don't know if this is a good idea or not what do you think

We'll talk about that after full massclaim tomorrow

In post 1714, Slandaar wrote:They are lower if we don't claim. The end.

Everyone has claimed but you at this point.

Eyy, someone's here!

Talk to me about jarjar, slandaar, kraska/vedith slot and/or maria.

In post 1720, Infinity 324 wrote:Talk to me about jarjar, slandaar, kraska/vedith slot and/or maria.

Null, Town, and Townleaning.

Can you give reasons for one of them?

Also I thought you scumread slandaar

In post 1722, Infinity 324 wrote:Can you give reasons for one of them?

Also I thought you scumread slandaar

I totally missed slandaar name when reading that.

I saw "Jarjar" then Vedith, then MariaR

Adjust accordingly.

Ok, can you give reasons?