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In post 1700, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:So you Gerry is bussing Tex?

In post 1704, BlackStar wrote:He already has 3 votes on him. Calm down

In post 1630, Dwlee99 wrote:Why does this shit always happen while Im asleep.

Dwlee99 wrote:Anyone who voted him was being stupid imo, obvtown by play and everyone should know LaL is a shitty policy, but you still shouldnt have hammered yourself, transcend.

Spoiler: Texcat Wagon

So, I'm going to go ahead and give the unpopular opinion here: this wagon on Texcat is just outright stupid(inb4 I'm scum defending my partner ). Dwlee's case on Texcat seems to be a case of town conf-bias. Also, voting Texcat because Transcend yelled "ZOMG ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE SCUM! LYNCH THEM AFTER I FLIP GREEN!" is really fucking stupid. Let's face it, Transcend is a toxic player, and the more a toxic player gets angry, the more they will burrow themselves into their shit hole and will refuse to see reason. The fact that Transcend was saying that people "hard scum claimed"(obvious exaggeration) is enough to show that his state of mind was nowhere near the kind to make informed decisions. He just wanted his scum reads lynched and that's it, he wasn't going to have it any other way. That kind of player is THE WORST type of player to listen to for lynch advice, because they're drowned in conf-bias or just plain hubris.

Spoiler: BlackStar is scum

Anyways, after much re-reading, I'm starting to notice a pattern developing between two players. BlackStar and Xkfyu. Let me start with BlackStar:
This guy has coasted the entire game. Go look at his ISO. At no point does he actually build competent cases on people before he votes them. All he does is take other people's scum reads and run with them without much reasoning as to why he HIMSELF scum reads that individual. The only time he made a case was on me ONLY AFTER he was prompted by Vedith to do so. He even admitted that he made the case up on the spot, and his case on me was riddled with reach reasoning and he picked up on that when I countered him, hence his unvote. He's been on all the major wagons on D1(Snake, Saru, Zyf, and Transcend). I'm not going to quote every post that he's made, but every time he votes someone, it's always a BLANK vote with no actual reasoning attached. His pattern is this: comment on another player's scum read, play to their doubts about their scum read, then outright vote the largest wagon, and finally get off when the wagon disbands. Rinse and repeat. Just take a gander at his ISO and you'll see what I'm talking about. Oh, and surprise, surprise, whose wagon is BlackStar on now? Take a guess.
I think Vedith nicely summed up how I feel about BlackStar:

In post 1488, Vedith wrote:

In post 1487, BlackStar wrote:It pinged me too, but I thought I was being paranoid

Aren't you an oportunist...

In post 1666, gerryoat wrote:transcend did nothing wrong. why the fuck would mafia retract. you guys are so narrow minded.

In post 1669, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:GERRY YOU WERE THERE DON'T PLAY THAT BS WITH ME YOU COULD OF GOT THE LYNCH OFF HIM AND DIDN'T

I'm not trying to shift the blame off me I know I fucked up and got him lynched but you didn't get it off him when his town play was rly obv at that point

In post 1694, Dwlee99 wrote:can we just lynch texcat ffs

In post 1713, texcat wrote:It looks like Saru is being the voice of reason. I need to reread Blackstar and Xk. I was voting Xk at some point yesterday, but need to review. I don't agree with his Tiershift scum read.

In post 1713, texcat wrote:It looks like Saru is being the voice of reason. I need to reread Blackstar and Xk. I was voting Xk at some point yesterday, but need to review. I don't agree with his Tiershift scum read.

In post 1709, BlackStar wrote:@Saru That part where you said I only ask Xfkyu stuff is definitely not true. And I don't know what you mean by "too friendly". I don't think I've responded to him any differently than how I talk to anyone else. You said I make a lot of naked votes. Guess what? Almost everyone does that. I expect people to ask me why I vote for the people I vote for. If you don't ask me for my reasoning, then you only have yourself to blame if you don't know why I voted for whoever I voted for. I also don't see how making a case up on the spot in scummy. Why would I have cases pre made for everyone. I know why I think people are scummy but I don't sit down and make a list of every scummy thing as it happens. So basically, you scum read me solely because you don't like my playstyle.

In post 1716, texcat wrote:I'm wondering why Lowell was killed and Algebra is still alive?

I did vote Trans. My vote was on him before his claim and his claim just cemented my position on him.

In post 1718, Saru wrote:

In post 1709, BlackStar wrote:@Saru That part where you said I only ask Xfkyu stuff is definitely not true. And I don't know what you mean by "too friendly". I don't think I've responded to him any differently than how I talk to anyone else. You said I make a lot of naked votes. Guess what? Almost everyone does that. I expect people to ask me why I vote for the people I vote for. If you don't ask me for my reasoning, then you only have yourself to blame if you don't know why I voted for whoever I voted for. I also don't see how making a case up on the spot in scummy. Why would I have cases pre made for everyone. I know why I think people are scummy but I don't sit down and make a list of every scummy thing as it happens. So basically, you scum read me solely because you don't like my playstyle.

lol you're only making my scum read of you worse with a post like this. Throwing shade unto others isn't going to help you here. "Don't single me out because everyone else does it!" is basically your argument for your naked votes. I'm not sure I see other players who have made 4 naked votes in a row(all on the major wagons btw) like you have, but feel free to correct me.

So apparently you think your playstyle is scummy in general? Is that why you think you get ML'd so much on D1, like you said previous? If so, it'd be nice if you could actually show me games where you played scummy on D1 and which ended in your mis-lynch. I'm sure you're just the most scummiest townie in existence, and this is all a misunderstanding.

And yes, you've been talking to Xkfyu with a pretty different demeanor overall. You've asked him twice for advice on how you could play better(unwarranted), which you've not done with any other player. When Xkfyu said "Yeah, yeah, Saru is town, go find another lynch", instead of choosing to question at that very moment why Xkfyu thought this way, you gave a little gimmicky GIF and moved on. Heck, you even apologized to him for making him laugh while he was at work because of that GIF. Oh, how sweet of you. <3

You haven't CHALLENGED Xkfyu on any points that he's made with which you disagreed. Instead, you shrugged them off with little to no reasoning. This is EXTREMELY scum partner interaction. The friendliness doesn't come from agreeing with all his points, but instead of not choosing to further question his disagreements with you. It feels like to me you don't want to put your partner in a bad light, but you're fine with doing that to others.

In post 1721, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Going over kills is one of my least fav things in the game cause of how many bs reasons there can be to a kill but knock yourself out.