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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:11 am
by DVa
In post 1688, Mewtaph wrote:My updated scum pool from D1 is:
{Oka, A50, DVa} and Nako as a faraway pick
this flips scum every time

VOTE: Mew

Joey, Mew is now the best lynch, both mechanically and through PoE.

-If he flips scum ascetic, we basically confirm A50 as a real TPR
-If he flips town ascetic, we still confirm A50 as a real PR, although his alignment is less certain
-If he doesn't flip ascetic, we confirm scum roleblocker/or A50 is lying

Also, at this point, Nako refusing to confirm she targeted Mew is weird. If she confirmed she was watching Mew, that would confirm him as ascetic. It would also raise the question of WHY Nako was watching Mew, which frankly seems suspicious to me at this point.

It's also unlikely to me that town has watcher+gunsmith+2 masons so I feel like we already have a surprising amount of power. Mew's predecessor was scummy, Nako has been weird today around claims, I feel like one of your townreads on one of these two slots is probably wrong.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:12 am
by Mewtaph
@Oka, He tried to play the game through a selfhammer - is that not trying to create early content? And I reiterated to you this on D1: This was testable on future days.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:14 am
by Mewtaph
In post 1700, DVa wrote:
In post 1688, Mewtaph wrote:My updated scum pool from D1 is:
{Oka, A50, DVa} and Nako as a faraway pick
this flips scum every time

VOTE: Mew

Joey, Mew is now the best lynch, both mechanically and through PoE.

-If he flips scum ascetic, we basically confirm A50 as a real TPR
-If he flips town ascetic, we still confirm A50 as a real PR, although his alignment is less certain
-If he doesn't flip ascetic, we confirm scum roleblocker/or A50 is lying

Also, at this point, Nako refusing to confirm she targeted Mew is weird. If she confirmed she was watching Mew, that would confirm him as ascetic. It would also raise the question of WHY Nako was watching Mew, which frankly seems suspicious to me at this point.

It's also unlikely to me that town has watcher+gunsmith+2 masons so I feel like we already have a surprising amount of power. Mew's predecessor was scummy, Nako has been weird today around claims, I feel like one of your townreads on one of these two slots is probably wrong.
Ego it. Your stances around me have been actively fake D1, you avoid interacting with my slot when I am active posting so you can save your stance on my slot not for D1, but now D2. And blatantly calling me an ascetic. Niiiice.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:14 am
by Sephiroth
In post 1700, DVa wrote:
In post 1688, Mewtaph wrote:My updated scum pool from D1 is:
{Oka, A50, DVa} and Nako as a faraway pick
this flips scum every time
The rest of this post never explains the above. Please do. Making a case on poe or mechanics is fine, but why does this flip scum every time?

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:16 am
by OkaPoka
Self voting is a naive way of creating content and lazy too.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:16 am
by DVa
All three people in his PoE are town and his comment about Nako being a "faraway pick" is scummy af

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:19 am
by Mewtaph
LOL no they aren't. And Nako actually got pushed out from my previous lynch pool, because she actually seems to be playing the game and trying to reconsider reads while {Oka, DVa, A50} have reads as firm as a rock and say in thread "I know I was wrong D1, so I'm going to sheep masonry! Baaa"

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:19 am
by Sephiroth
In post 1705, DVa wrote:All three people in his PoE are town and his comment about Nako being a "faraway pick" is scummy af
That scum pool is identical to mine except you and Nako are swapped. Am I flipping scum every time?

What is with people just voting for people with different reads than them? How the fuck is that indicative of anything other than two people reading the game differently? Unless you can show in some way that these reads hint at being made up that isn't just 'different than mine' then I don't see how this is a valid reason to vote someone. Both you and Kokichi, I just don't understand. Its almost enough to make me doubt the masons since kokichi dropped me to -1 on just that. Seriously thats just lazy stupid reading.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:20 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1666, Mewtaph wrote:Kokichi do you know how to correctly play mason in a mafia game? This is not it.
What's the correct way, o mighty one

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:21 am
by Kokichi Oma
I'd lynch mew btw

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:22 am
by Mewtaph
DVa, you try to actively interact with my slot in a way that easily translates into an easy pocket and easy sail through this game. The problem is that as soon as I rejected you before that even began, you actively avoid the thread when I know you are around while I am active posting, you post after I leave. If I read you as town simply because mostly everyone else trs you, that would be stupid. Your slot is less contested than Nako lmao

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:22 am
by OkaPoka
Kokichi do you have daychat with Joey?

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:23 am
by Sephiroth
Its also worth noting that everyone started tring dva almost simultaneously on the basis of one post about PP, which imo could either be reasonable/balanced or fencesitty depending on how you look at it. I don't think theres any world in which Dva deserves to be townread.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:23 am
by DVa
In post 1707, Sephiroth wrote: Am I flipping scum every time?
Probably, I mean I was just voting you.

And I sure as hell think there is scum within {Mew, Sephiroth}.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:23 am
by Mewtaph
In post 1708, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1666, Mewtaph wrote:Kokichi do you know how to correctly play mason in a mafia game? This is not it.
What's the correct way, o mighty one
Stop shit posting to bolster your ability to do jack shit when you do roll mafia so you can win games doing nothing because "I can do that as town too". It's
really
transparent.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:23 am
by DVa
In post 1710, Mewtaph wrote:nto an easy pocket
Get the fuck out

This gets lynched today

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:24 am
by Almost50
@skitter: You should probably hire ruru to do VCs. She's GREAT you won't ever regret it and the players will never have to look back because there is one on almost every other page (sometimes on every page if there is multiple voting activities)


VOTE: Mewtaph

I like DVa's reasoning to vote here. Personally I know he's either Ascetic Scum or there's a Roleblocker. Ascetic Town claims at the start of the game or is stupid. Ascetic. Miller and arguably PGO should always claim early.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:25 am
by Mewtaph
In post 1715, DVa wrote:
In post 1710, Mewtaph wrote:nto an easy pocket
Get the fuck out

This gets lynched today
You show interest in interacting with my slot D1 and then you just don't.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:25 am
by Sephiroth
You're gonna lose a lot of games as town if you just try to lynch people whose reads don't match your own. I actually think you doing that makes sense from a town slot or scum slot based on what I've observed in your play.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:29 am
by Mewtaph
In post 1, skitter30 wrote:26. Note that daytalk is enabled

@Joey_

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:29 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1714, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 1708, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1666, Mewtaph wrote:Kokichi do you know how to correctly play mason in a mafia game? This is not it.
What's the correct way, o mighty one
Stop shit posting to bolster your ability to do jack shit when you do roll mafia so you can win games doing nothing because "I can do that as town too". It's
really
transparent.
Actually I dont do jack shit when I'm scum, which is why people say that's my meta. So you're talking to the wrong person

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:30 am
by Mewtaph
In post 1720, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1714, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 1708, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1666, Mewtaph wrote:Kokichi do you know how to correctly play mason in a mafia game? This is not it.
What's the correct way, o mighty one
Stop shit posting to bolster your ability to do jack shit when you do roll mafia so you can win games doing nothing because "I can do that as town too". It's
really
transparent.
Actually I dont do jack shit when I'm scum, which is why people say that's my meta. So you're talking to the wrong person
Ok good job

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:31 am
by Kokichi Oma
Then why are you upset at me when you have no idea what you're even talking about

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:33 am
by Mewtaph
Because you sred my predecessor then start the basis of your reads with saying I'm scum without ever interacting with me? Nice.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:47 am
by Mewtaph
In post 1700, DVa wrote:-If he flips scum ascetic, we basically confirm A50 as a real TPR
-If he flips town ascetic, we still confirm A50 as a real PR, although his alignment is less certain
-If he doesn't flip ascetic, we confirm scum roleblocker/or A50 is lying
Your "mechanically clearing" logic is inherently biased. Try again.