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Varsoon is a lurk fest, but he's surprisingly towny?

In post 345, Varsoon wrote:

In post 342, BrightEyedFish wrote:anyone want to help me get caught up? Is YyottaCat still the best lynch?

Dude it's a 14 page game
Even if you had to read literally all 341 others posts again, that'd take, what, 20 minutes?

VOTE: Bright Eyed Fish

Lolcatchmeup bruv

In post 370, Varsoon wrote:I don't think asking for a catchup is scum-indicative, I just want to see how'd you respond and what your justifications are, which helps me draw a bit more of a bead on how you play, given I don't have much meta experience with you.

VOTE: Dr Dolitte
I do think this doctor has done little.

I like this move and turn. If scum!varsoon wanted to move back to DDL they'd still keep that bead of suspicion on BEF for future purposes instead of dropping it completely. The push to try and get a better understanding of a player is fairly towny.

In post 964, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: Yyotta
Just to be sure, then.
It's an awful lynch, in my opinion.

In post 967, Varsoon wrote:It gives us nothing, imo.

Yeeeeeep. I need to look at which players specifically didn't put up any resistance to the Yyotta wagon and/or pushed for it. I know Vorkuta is one. I don't think it's a scum tell just to be on the wagon, but town should recognize that the lynch probably isn't scum and probably doesn't give much information to go on.

Aside from that, Varsoon doesn't do much else worth commenting on except for tunneling DDL. Though, atm I'd probably reverse my earlier vague town read of DDL and take him as scum over Varsoon. Varsoon's lack of participation in this game recently is worrying, but not necessarily AI. Looks like he just parked his vote on DDL and decided that was it. I'd like to seem him post again with the Vork claim and that wagon being at L-1 (or I guess L-2 now), however. I'll put this slot at leaning town with OkaPoka for now.

I was gonna do more tonight but I'm tired and can do the rest of the player list tomorrow.

Still need to know why a VT claim suddenly makes DDL need to think. The only thing that's changed is that I expressed intent to hammer for the claim, do you not actually want the lynch going through now for some reason?

In post 1692, OkaPoka wrote:No I just finished a game where a bunch of scum were lurkers and one dude I was pretty sure was town was scum

Oh and what? I don't understand this. You're doubting yourself now because you discovered your reads aren't infallible?

In post 374, BrightEyedFish wrote:

In post 373, Leodanny wrote:Yay! Hopefully this insight will solidify our sr’s! What do you think of DDL, Fish?

Don't really SR him right now but I get the flack on him though. I don't know if he is trying to use AtE to get people off of him and its having the opposite effect or what.

It looks like he will be MIA for awhile and he might replace out so I'm not too comfortable jumping on that wagon until we know if he will stay here or replace out. I tend to give people who replace in a little room to set their own tone before damning them for the sins of their predecessor.

Hm. Maybe DDL/BEF are the team.

In post 1701, Dannflor wrote:Still need to know why a VT claim suddenly makes DDL need to think.

We reconsidered DDL D1 after he claimed VT.

In post 1703, Dannflor wrote:

In post 374, BrightEyedFish wrote:

In post 373, Leodanny wrote:Yay! Hopefully this insight will solidify our sr’s! What do you think of DDL, Fish?

Don't really SR him right now but I get the flack on him though. I don't know if he is trying to use AtE to get people off of him and its having the opposite effect or what.

It looks like he will be MIA for awhile and he might replace out so I'm not too comfortable jumping on that wagon until we know if he will stay here or replace out. I tend to give people who replace in a little room to set their own tone before damning them for the sins of their predecessor.

Hm. Maybe DDL/BEF are the team.

Why did DDL hesitate on Vork then?

Scum 99.8 percent on the lynch block does not claim VT? Do they?

Doesnt rhat give you a sense of some thing is a bit off?

In post 1706, DrDolittle wrote:Scum 99.8 percent on the lynch block does not claim VT? Do they?

Depends on the scum. I'd usually claim PR to bait another if I seem to be going down.

In post 1706, DrDolittle wrote:Scum 99.8 percent on the lynch block does not claim VT? Do they?

Where did you get that stat?

Though, more inexperienced scum could assume claiming PR is too risky.

I'm somewhat stuck in this dilemma of "one of BEF/Vork must be scum", but I could easily see both of them being town.

Maybe I'm over thinking this.

In post 1710, Creature wrote:Though, more inexperienced scum could assume claiming PR is too risky.

Yeah, and also more inexperienced scum would lynch their traitor. I don't think we can go on the fact that we have a "typical" or "normal" acting scum team here.

998 is a modifier on being on the lynch block rather than modifier on scum

If you know you are gonna die, would you still claim VT as scum? Why not a hail Mary PR reaction test

In post 1715, DrDolittle wrote:If you know you are gonna die, would you still claim VT as scum? Why not a hail Mary PR reaction test

Could be a lot of reasons to claim VT, however, most of them at this point would simply be WIFOM tinfoil.

In post 1706, DrDolittle wrote:Scum 99.8 percent on the lynch block does not claim VT? Do they?

Yes, they do. Lol.

Claiming a PR means you can't endgame in all odds, risks a counter claim, and looks suspicious. Moreover, Vorkuta's play is pretty clearly not PR play so faking one there would have been very questionable.

For the I don't even know how many'th time this game, scum claim PRs about equally to VTs and this circumstance is nothing special. Especially because he is not "99.8% on the lynch block" with the Fish wagon and how many people are arguing it.

In post 1694, BrightEyedFish wrote:What's the point of posting 1693

What's the point of posting 1694

I just have this feeling that it's varsoon

I have an idea!

If you think Vorkuta is scum, vote him. If you think he is town, don't!

No "too wolfy to be a wolf". No "why would he kill rb after that crumb". No "scum would claim PR".


Noting again that I am very confident this is a red flip and I would like it to be lynched.

I just have this feeling that it's varsoon

Why?

Scum 99.8 percent on the lynch block does not claim VT? Do they?

Scum do not necessarily claim PR. That just sounds like a way of retroactively clearing yourself, DDL.

I'm 50/50 on Vorkuta scum, but either way this flips progresses the game in a good direction.

VOTE: Vorkuta

L-1

Ok so I'm going to phone post some thoughts.

Basically c9++ game I played, I played pretty poorly and had some bad reads. Anyways this game is making me feel weird bc the more my scumreads post, the less scummy they feel which usually never happens ever for me. I don't know what to make of it.


Anyways for varsoon, I just feel like he's spectating the game rather than playing which just feels not good. Idk.

I agree it feels not good. However, do you think it's a scum tell? Either alignment has the possibility of getting bored of the game.