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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:05 pm
by Evenstar
@Severa: Are scum fully stacked on Farkran right now? If not, where's the third?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:06 pm
by Severa
I can't force that kind of a wagon read; either I see something or I don't and I don't presently see something.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:07 pm
by Evenstar
In post 1672, popsofctown wrote:
Severa + Alchemist seems like a possible scumteam based on how Severa was dismissive of the wagon on Alchemist, then made Kersetwagon seem exciting, then later shifted it over to me.
Evenstar posed the question about my unique town perspective with a built-in assumption that Severa is town though, I really don't understand why I'm supposed to make that assumption. That's a very very bad assumption fmpov because the universes where Severa is scum is the majority of the ones where scum win this game.
If Severa is scum you cannot convince her to not lynch you. If Severa is town you might be able to. Therefore these two worlds are important to differentiate in order to prevent your ML.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:08 pm
by Evenstar
In post 1701, Severa wrote:I can't force that kind of a wagon read; either I see something or I don't and I don't presently see something.
Bullshit. Take a guess.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:10 pm
by popsofctown
In post 1702, Evenstar wrote:
In post 1672, popsofctown wrote:
Severa + Alchemist seems like a possible scumteam based on how Severa was dismissive of the wagon on Alchemist, then made Kersetwagon seem exciting, then later shifted it over to me.
Evenstar posed the question about my unique town perspective with a built-in assumption that Severa is town though, I really don't understand why I'm supposed to make that assumption. That's a very very bad assumption fmpov because the universes where Severa is scum is the majority of the ones where scum win this game.
If Severa is scum you cannot convince him to not lynch you. If Severa is cannot convince him to not lynch you. Therefore post puzzles and dragons characters.
FTFY

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:10 pm
by popsofctown
In post 1704, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1702, Evenstar wrote:
In post 1672, popsofctown wrote:
Severa + Alchemist seems like a possible scumteam based on how Severa was dismissive of the wagon on Alchemist, then made Kersetwagon seem exciting, then later shifted it over to me.
Evenstar posed the question about my unique town perspective with a built-in assumption that Severa is town though, I really don't understand why I'm supposed to make that assumption. That's a very very bad assumption fmpov because the universes where Severa is scum is the majority of the ones where scum win this game.
If Severa is scum you cannot convince him to not lynch you. If Severa is town you cannot convince him to not lynch you. Therefore post puzzles and dragons characters.
FTFY

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:10 pm
by Severa
It's not bullshit; I don't have a clear picture of what scum are doing right now outside of the individuals that I scumread.
Particularly given that I'm split between two worlds regarding Pops's scumread

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:14 pm
by Severa
Regarding Pop's scumTEAM

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:18 pm
by Evenstar
In post 1706, Severa wrote:It's not bullshit; I don't have a clear picture of what scum are doing right now outside of the individuals that I scumread.
Particularly given that I'm split between two worlds regarding Pops's scumread
... So what you're saying is that you have absolutely no clue who the third scum is, and no idea which of the two worlds (PopsTown/PopsScum) is likelier?

I'm not asking for a masterwork here, I'm asking for your best guess. Do both worlds if you gotta.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:19 pm
by Evenstar
In post 1707, Severa wrote:Regarding Pop's scumTEAM
... What are your two team worlds?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:20 pm
by Severa
World 1: Kerset + someone who is either (literally TL or) actively avoiding both wagons
World 2: Salamence or some combination of people who voted Kerset but derailed the Pops wagon to go wagon Farkran

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:24 pm
by Evenstar
In post 1710, Severa wrote:World 1: Kerset + someone who is
either (literally TL or) actively avoiding both wagons
By which you mean the Pops and Kerset wagons, or the Pops and Farkran ones?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:28 pm
by Farkran
In post 1690, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1684, Farkran wrote:While you are here, alch, would you like to take a stance on the current gamestate?
I’m interested in seeing how kerset wagon vs pops wagon plays out. I’m wondering if the pops wagon breaks down will the voted swing back to Kerset or will they go somewhere else, and I’m also wondering if more voted will come to Kerset in response to the pops wagon.
In post 1699, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1211, Alchemist21 wrote:Looked back through Kerset’s ISO and a Kerset/pops partnership does make a lot of sense.

VOTE: Kerset
In post 1219, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1214, Kerset wrote:
In post 1211, Alchemist21 wrote:Looked back through Kerset’s ISO and a Kerset/pops partnership does make a lot of sense.

VOTE: Kerset
Did you? You basically just vote everything that gets voted...
Yeah. You kinda waffled on your read on pops but you didn’t on any other read. I can see that as scum who doesn’t want to take a definitive stance on a buddy.
Er... do you realize there is something big going on here? I mean my question about why you're scumreading kerset was pretty much to confirm whether you were aware that you're scumreading kerset
because
you're scumreading pops, and your stance about the current wagons is to see whether kerset would be a counterwagon to pops? I mean the wagons already developed from kerset into farkran into pops, what do you have to say about this?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:34 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 1712, Farkran wrote:
In post 1690, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1684, Farkran wrote:While you are here, alch, would you like to take a stance on the current gamestate?
I’m interested in seeing how kerset wagon vs pops wagon plays out. I’m wondering if the pops wagon breaks down will the voted swing back to Kerset or will they go somewhere else, and I’m also wondering if more voted will come to Kerset in response to the pops wagon.
In post 1699, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1211, Alchemist21 wrote:Looked back through Kerset’s ISO and a Kerset/pops partnership does make a lot of sense.

VOTE: Kerset
In post 1219, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1214, Kerset wrote:
In post 1211, Alchemist21 wrote:Looked back through Kerset’s ISO and a Kerset/pops partnership does make a lot of sense.

VOTE: Kerset
Did you? You basically just vote everything that gets voted...
Yeah. You kinda waffled on your read on pops but you didn’t on any other read. I can see that as scum who doesn’t want to take a definitive stance on a buddy.
Er... do you realize there is something big going on here? I mean my question about why you're scumreading kerset was pretty much to confirm whether you were aware that you're scumreading kerset
because
you're scumreading pops, and your stance about the current wagons is to see whether kerset would be a counterwagon to pops? I mean the wagons already developed from kerset into farkran into pops, what do you have to say about this?
If my theory about them being scum together is correct then I think Kerset is a strong scum role and they were willing to let Pops get lynched, and then Farkran became a counterwagon to both.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:35 pm
by Alchemist21
Trim the quotes in the next response to me because we’re making quote walls like when I talked to Gamma.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:36 pm
by Severa
Pops/Kerset

Alch could be scum if it's a Kerset!Town world where Pops is scum.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:40 pm
by Farkran
In post 1713, Alchemist21 wrote: If my theory about them being scum together is correct then I think Kerset is a strong scum role and they were willing to let Pops get lynched, and then Farkran became a counterwagon to both.
...so... you've been parking on kerset, because...?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:41 pm
by Severa
because he says he thinks that kerset is a strong scum role whereas they were fine having pops get lynched. not at all sure how much sense that makes in the context of the actual game but if it did make sense the logic does apply.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:45 pm
by Evenstar
@Severa:
So...

World 1: Pops/Kerset/[Alchemist/Bitmap/Chemist]
World 2: Pops/Salamence/[Alchemist/Bitmap/V&M]

And you're clearing everybody on the Pops wagon in either world?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:46 pm
by Farkran
In post 1717, Severa wrote:because he says he thinks that kerset is a strong scum role whereas they were fine having pops get lynched. not at all sure how much sense that makes in the context of the actual game but if it did make sense the logic does apply.
Yeah, so... alchemist has two thirds of a gamesolve in his mind but he wants to lynch the stronger role in the scumteam to prevent the apocalypse kerset is causing n1 thanks to his overly awesome powers that do not even cost mp to use, before we lynch him d2?

Alchemist, please explain this to me, i don't think severa read properly into your mind, because it doesn't make a lot of sense really

(@severa i know you weren't being serious)

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:55 pm
by Severa
If you force me to try to develop reads that I don't have they will suck.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:04 pm
by Bitmap
Hi im wasted from karaoke but i know in the end I’ll sheep rc

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:05 pm
by Bitmap
I never roll scum anymore

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:06 pm
by Salamence20
Then do it and vote pops

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:07 pm
by Evenstar
In post 1720, Severa wrote:If you force me to try to develop reads that I don't have they will suck.
It's amazing to me that you seem completely unable to deal with simple hypotheticals.

If Pops flips scum, do we lynch Salamance or Kerset first?
If Pops flips town, who's next on your list?