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In post 1699, Micc wrote:ok I found floppy's claim. but it says one-shot and you're giving two innocents?

im a bit confused about what the gamestate is tbh

I lied, like a liar

I had two shots fr fr

I’m kinda at a loss for what to do

I might want to go hoop, that’s like the last place that feels right to place my vote

the case against prana seems pretty compelling.

so why Hoopla?

In post 1693, Hiraki wrote:You said it, not me. I can quote it a thousand times and you can call it a lie a thousand times. Doesn't really matter to me.

No. I stated, multiple times now, that I never believed there was ANOTHER protective role.

READ THE FUCKING THREAD.

I HAVE however, said multiple times that notscience stated, bluntly, that "I" would be watching Agar.

That's it.

That's everything.

Go back and check.

Not fucking ONCE did I say there was someone else protecting Agar.

You claim I did again, I'm voting you as you're very blatantly lying then.

In post 1705, Micc wrote:the case against prana seems pretty compelling.

so why Hoopla?

No. No it isn't. The case on me is "That's a claimed Watcher, lynch them". That's the entirety of it.

notscience turned my role into a WIFOM hellhole that allowed him to push my lynch regardless.

Hoopla has been pushing for my lynch since day 1.

Hiraki is clearly talking fucking bollocks today and has decided to not actually do anything but vote me and lie.

Una should know better.

In post 1696, Micc wrote:

In post 1692, PranaDevil wrote:

In post 1689, Hiraki wrote:Watcher was not on confirmed PR. Confirmed PR is dead. Watcher claims that he thought confirmed PR was being protected but also that he did not believe that. Either way, still not on PR.

This is still utter bollocks.

At this point I am going to call it for what it is, a very blatant lie.

I haven't found where you claimed your N2 action and why you targeted there. can you fill me in?

I know I can go find this, and I will at some point, but I kinda want to hear your answer to this

hi micc, welcome to game! here's a quick run-down on the gamestate;

- we run up flippy. he claims 1-shot combined fruit vendor/gunsmith at L-2. town backs down, and instead end up running up prana to L-1 who claims watcher. i am suspicious of him, almost hammer, then town gets cold feet and runs up a lynch on VT-gobbledygook in a deadline rush.
- no kill occurs
- flippy claims his gunsmith result on una: no gun. una confirms this by declaring he received a piece of fruit. from left-field, agar claims a roleblock on klick, making it the likely explanation for the NK. he flips goon.
- scum kill agar
- prana our watcher claims he watched una (and not our essentially conf-town roleblocker who scum needed to kill last night). meanwhile, flippy claimed he lied and was actually 2 shot and investigated BM: no gun. BM also claims that he is bulletproof.

that should be the totality of all claims/results, sans analysis. it's up to you to read into these events more, but i will let you know that local heros hoopla/notscience/unabombah are highly suspicious of prana's claim from a setup spec perspective and due to him absurdly not watching agar last night.

your slot also has some tinfoil traitor-conspiracies floating above you, due in part to gypyx's strange curiosity about traitors and one possibly fitting with the setup.

In post 1707, PranaDevil wrote:Hoopla has been pushing for my lynch since day 1.

yes, i am that good.

Just vote prana it’s him or me Micc

Feels pretty unlikely that town has [roleblocker/gunsmith/watcher/bulletproof] and the scum team wouldn't be able to prevent a result from either the gunsmith or the watcher while killing the roleblocker. prana's claimed result is dubious and his reaction to being pushed doesn't look that great so lynching there makes sense. The flipside to that is Flippy being scum who has fake claimed gunsmith on top of being a fruit vendor. Considering he was also run up day 1, it seems possible, but I'm not sure how I feel about scum fruit vendor. I guess it would have utility in messing with a watcher?

My initial take aligns with the voting block on prana, I get where that case comes from. If there's a case behind the Hoopla counterwagon I haven't found it yet. I also don't get the impression that notscience is on the table at all so I'm not sure I understand where his "prana or me" statement comes from.

Prana thinks I’m scum as does bm they are just on hoopla with the misguided notion she’s been the main wagon pusher when it’s been me

Guys I don’t think cooldog is coming back

yeah I get the impression that is a counterwagon for the sake of a counterwagon.

can you give your thoughts on Flippy? as much as my initial take aligns with where you guys going, I'm looking at Flippy and seeing a lot of similarities to prana, just with a slightly more believable claim. Run up and claimed power D1, still getting results despite being claimed, not pushing a strong wagon today. am I wrong to be a little suspicious there?

He wasn’t even at l-1 its a panic claim and such a weird role to make up

couldn't have been too much of a panic. he thought about it enough to lie about a number of shots.

ftr I haven't actually read that part of day 1 yet but will get to it soon.

In post 1716, Micc wrote:couldn't have been too much of a panic. he thought about it enough to lie about a number of shots.

this is actually a good point.

Somethings been pinging me since D1 and I can’t put my finger on it, could just be a play style clash. Not exactly sure where I want to go tho

Well if I would of said I had 2 shots on day 1 I felt like I would of died that night. It’s wasn’t that hard to figure out what I’d claim when I got my role pm

It’s like I may as well just cut this in half so I don’t eat the night kill the first night and I can get my second shot off

We still have a watcher claim to deal with

theres also an argument for giving them both another night to see what happens. its not like tomorrow is lylo if we mislynch.

on the other hand the more prana I read the more I want to lynch him. In addition to the mechanical stuff, the way he found his away onto both lynch wagons despite actively campaigning elsewhere is super scummy.

I think he needs to be sorted out today we’ve literally put this off since d1

In post 1696, Micc wrote:by blocking the N1 kill which caused Klick's scum flip D2 I assume?

Yep.

In post 1706, PranaDevil wrote:No. I stated, multiple times now, that I never believed there was ANOTHER protective role.

Okay buddy, let's do this dance again just to really push it in. You decided not to watch Agar because...?